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A Simple Question

Started by TwinsX2Dad, March 25, 2006, 09:19:46 AM

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iowamf

did ya' know:

the original draft of the constitution was "We the States" instead of "We the People" ...

interesting how the founders looked at State rights (wish that was still held).

but don't trust me - I voted for Larry the Cable Guy.

technodragon73

Quote from: iowamf on March 27, 2006, 03:11:58 AM
did ya' know:

the original draft of the constitution was "We the States" instead of "We the People" ...

interesting how the founders looked at State rights (wish that was still held).

but don't trust me - I voted for Larry the Cable Guy.

Actually, the way the constitution was written it very much kept the rights to govern to the states almost entirely...just a few powerful peopl (mostly within the last century) that warped that.

anunlike

Yep, so much of the Constitution is gone ...

TwinsX2Dad

Quote from: technodragon73 on March 27, 2006, 02:27:43 AMYa, but the public (goverment) schools, always refer to George Washington as the "First" president...so obviously it is not those teachings that you are referring to?

But, of course it is!

Quote from: anunlike on March 27, 2006, 02:49:05 AMI was joking. ;)

I know you were. Usually, when I begin with something as silly as HOLD THE PHONE, this means I too am joking. Or at least being a little humorous.   :D

Quote from: technodragon73 on March 27, 2006, 03:39:30 AMActually, the way the constitution was written it very much kept the rights to govern to the states almost entirely...just a few powerful peopl (mostly within the last century) that warped that.

Yes - but actually those powerful people in power since 1861. Except, of course, for Teddy & Ronnie.   ;D

Quote from: anunlike on March 27, 2006, 05:06:09 AM
Yep, so much of the Constitution is gone ...

It is an incredibly sad thing.

I love my country - the government, on the other hand, can rot in (insert your most feared place here).


technodragon73

Quote from: TwÃÆ'Ã,­nsX2DÃÆ'Ã,Â¥Ã,,‘ÂÃ,³ on March 27, 2006, 05:22:31 AM
Quote from: technodragon73 on March 27, 2006, 02:27:43 AMYa, but the public (goverment) schools, always refer to George Washington as the "First" president...so obviously it is not those teachings that you are referring to?

But, of course it is!

Quote from: anunlike on March 27, 2006, 02:49:05 AMI was joking. ;)

I know you were. Usually, when I begin with something as silly as HOLD THE PHONE, this means I too am joking. Or at least being a little humorous.   :D

Quote from: technodragon73 on March 27, 2006, 03:39:30 AMActually, the way the constitution was written it very much kept the rights to govern to the states almost entirely...just a few powerful peopl (mostly within the last century) that warped that.

Yes - but actually those powerful people in power since 1861. Except, of course, for Teddy & Ronnie.   ;D

Quote from: anunlike on March 27, 2006, 05:06:09 AM
Yep, so much of the Constitution is gone ...

It is an incredibly sad thing.

I love my country - the government, on the other hand, can rot in (insert your most feared place here).



My favorite warping of the constitution is the phrase "seperation of church and state"  I defy anyone to find those actual words in the constitution!

TwinsX2Dad

Quote from: technodragon73 on March 27, 2006, 05:26:35 AMMy favorite warping of the constitution is the phrase "seperation of church and state"  I defy anyone to find those actual words in the constitution!

Where? Where are they?

You're right........ THEY AREN'T THERE! 

But the left-wing, liberal judiciary seems to fit that concept in whenever they can.

technodragon73

My point exactly...

Exact wording:
QuoteCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom
of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably
to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

note: it says nothing of religion in school, court, or any other public place....has everyone been so dumbed down by government education that they forget that this country was founded on christian beliefs?  Granted there is no "official" religion, but most of the laws were considered as a result of those beliefs!

anunlike

My biggest overall complaint is that the federal government is just too damn big. It was never designed to be anywhere near what it's mutated into. Much of what the authority that the federal government has should still be in the hands of the respective states.

One way I like to look at it, our country was founded on three important things.
1. A very limited federal government.
2. Individual liberty
3. Personal responsibility

None of these really exist, anymore, at least they're no where near the importance that they should be.

technodragon73

Quote from: anunlike on March 27, 2006, 05:36:46 AM
My biggest overall complaint is that the federal government is just too damn big. It was never designed to be anywhere near what it's mutated into. Much of what the authority that the federal government has should still be in the hands of the respective states.

One way I like to look at it, our country was founded on three important things.
1. A very limited federal government.
2. Individual liberty
3. Personal responsibility

None of these really exist, anymore, at least they're no where near the importance that they should be.
You forget to list quite possibly the single most important liberty that has been taken awya and the single most-important foundation of this country...private property rights!

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