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Started by Names all Gone, September 19, 2006, 09:57:49 PM

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G6Cad

Always restart the server program after any change ;)

Names all Gone

Apache restarting - well I hope it is ......

waiting, waiting

decided to just go for it - one small change shouldn't screw things up - should it  :D

Can't afford $40 a pop for them to do fixes for me

Whew - back up & live sites are ok - lets see if that worked brb

Names all Gone

#12
nope didn't work - still the same errors

looks like I can't have articles & forum on home page  :(

I'll try a new install just to make sure - but either way I can still have the benefits of tp on other pages just not the frontpage. Will have to change the menus so I don't have home & forum leading to the same place though.

Thanks for the help, maybe the next release will fix things for me.

hmm just had an idea, I never tried a different version, maybe I should do that and see if I have the same problems.

Edit
is there anywhere I can download an earlier version to try - couldn't see anything in the downloads section.

Names all Gone

Ok I contacted support & was told that the script was trying to do assignments inside isset() giving false positives/negatives causing the errors, & this does not work the same with all versions of php & to use null or define instead. That I come not use the script as it stands because I would flood the system with errors.
Also told me to check the comparison tables on www.php.net (lot of good that does me LOL)

Since that's all double dutch to me, it looks like I need to upgrade.
which version of php 4 is this best with.

G6Cad

What i understand any php will work just as good when the settings you have are correct.
Why would it work for some, and for some not at all with the exact same versions of both apache and php/sql ?
I think a better configuration with the php and sql will solve the issues.

I think we have to call in eather eeek or Thurnok here :)

Names all Gone

I don't understand any of it, just looking to get things sorted even if I have to buy a new server as they suggested.

G6Cad

I have made o post in the team borad for eeek and Thurnoc.
They know this like the back of their hands, i have pointed them to this thread, so when they are here and read it, im sure they will give you a better explanation then i can :)

Names all Gone

Thanks

but do tell them it's not urgent, I do not have this on a production site & I don't want to take time away from essentials. It's just frustrating when others seem to be able to use it successfully.

eeek

hmmmm ???

Having just had a fiddle with my site seems I cant get forum posts on the front page?? I only have blocks and never tried this after I uploaded from my test server. The only forum stuff that will show is "go directly to forum". I only have one error or should I say 1000s of the same error but all caused by google bots and spiders  ;D

This crappy free ISP server runs
Mysql 3.23.58
PHP 4.3.10
Apache/2.0.51 (Fedora)

And its in safe mode...

My test server is in the middle of a rebuild so cant do much checking till I get it up and running again :)

Names all Gone

hehe sounds the same as my crappy server LOL

Can I be mean & say I'm glad you had problems - felt like I was alone alone.

Anyway this is what I was told

He said the problem was the way isset had been used assigning by reference & that each version of php treated that differently until the reference fix was brought out & thats why it works on some versions of php & not others. Something about Zend not using the values & things being undefined as a result. He was muttering about the nested calls being the main problem.

Now remember I just jotted notes as he talked and may have confused somethings, but he said to use the comparison tables on www.php.net and to search the documents for an explanation of the reference fix.

Going off to look at new server specs & pricing - this one is over 4 years old & I know prices have come down.

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