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Started by domineaux, February 01, 2007, 06:44:25 PM

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taucher

wouldnt it be easier to use www.lifetype.net and try to combine the useraccounts? only an idea, i would like to do this if i knew php. but smf, tp and lifetype together would be wonderful.

bloc

Sure, we can build bridges and thats what some do too..but TP was all about keeping things in a nice compact, SMF-only format. Easier to keep track of SMF software changes, easily installed/un-installed etc. Otherwise you end up having 4-5 scripts going along..just to have the features a "portal" should have.

It seems like re-inventing the wheel..and in a way it does, but I have alwasy been fond of the all-you-need-in-one-go type when done efficiently and not adding everything you can...:P

domineaux

Quote from: Bloc on February 02, 2007, 09:15:47 AM
In fact..I read your post at SMF, and while it isn't really suitable for SMF itself (after all, its a forum software, aiming to do what a forum should provide in the best way it can), it can certainly be a mod...or even more logical: since a blog feature will combine two worlds, its more on the path of portal software than forum software.

TP can really use a blog feature. Now, we have FelBlog, which is (or will be) a module you can plugin into TP. I can't say how it goes, since its Felines project and you have to wait for her response..but here a thought or two about TP's future that might be interesting:

Right now TP has articles and categories. Articles have a simple comment and a rating system and is also linked to frontpage ..in that last articles can be shown etc. Its just minor steps from being an article, to being a simple blog. What I like to add is an option to expand categories in a way that they can treat its articles in different ways. It can be as easy as showing the category as pure links instead of the actual articles, or just the icons for example - or not show it at all(for simple archiving purposes). It can also be that it treats articles and child categories as for example individual "blogs", one per user... The key here is simplicity, in that the changes aren't too complex, so the versatility can be kept.

3 more things are needed:
1.) member permissions, quite cruical to both articles and "blogs".  2.) Links that are "index.php?page=mypage" instead of/in addition to "index.php?page=23" and 3.) search within articles, also very handy.

So while I won't say that this and this will be in, the idea of TP offering a simple blog is quite possible.


One important issue most miss is there is a real need for a security level most sites don't require.  The comments leaves open a huge door for spammer abuse, which is pretty well handled in Wordpress by the ASKIMET plug-in combined with Bad Behaviour.

IMO, I see the frontrunners on sites with forums including Blogs.  Blogs are being discussed all over TV news shows.  I watch CNN and it has even become common practice to interview Bloggers on national TV.  Bloggers may be a sort of fade, but their contributions are valid.  The people get to speak through blogs, and they are doing it.

I like the idea of blogs, because it's common practice to self promote your site with other bloggers, etc.  A blog article can be all over the internet in a couple days, which is unheard of for a forums posting.

When you say simple blog, that runs a flag up for me.  I mean simple anything just means it'll never do the job on a producton site. Sorry, I'm not picking on you.  (encouragement) If you decide to do a Blog...do it right so it's a viable part of the TP.

Thanks for a good informative response.
 

bloc

Oh, I never try to do something half-way. :) I am just cautious as TP's primary mission isn't being a blog software - but its also closer to it than SMF will be. So don't be put-off by a term like "simple". TP has always meant to be "simple" - a direct contrast to being bloated and slowing its main engine, SMF, down.

But I see your point in for example spamming. The comment system on articles isn't really safe as of now, that has to be improved. In short, the magnitude of possible abuse isn't adressed much yet.

brianjw

This is awesome :D may be a feature of tp :yay:!

mictur

Yes, a blog functionality with in TP would be great!

If I wasn't such a noob I would try and make something like this: ChosenFool, but I guess I have to wait for Bloc to use his magig or Chosenfool to make his/hers template available  :knuppel2: :coolsmiley:

Assistance

Quote from: mictur on February 04, 2007, 03:07:40 PM

If I wasn't such a noob I would try and make something like this: ChosenFool,
you dont know how to create a board and give it a title of blog?

wish somone would explain to the simple people how smf  blogs.simplemachines.org , was created
open source anyone?

mictur

Well I do know how to post messages one after another, but that's not what I'm after.  :(
I'd like to see a plug in that works similar to the likes of wordpress etc. Since I do however lack the skills in programming I'm not demanding anything, just putting my wishes forward.

bloc

Quote from: Assistance on February 13, 2007, 05:58:26 AM
Quote from: mictur on February 04, 2007, 03:07:40 PM

If I wasn't such a noob I would try and make something like this: ChosenFool,
you dont know how to create a board and give it a title of blog?

wish somone would explain to the simple people how smf  blogs.simplemachines.org , was created
open source anyone?

That is a custom written script by one of the SMF devs..but similar results(minus the avatar maybe) can be achived with ssi function BoardNews. Simply assign a board as the "blog" board, and call the function, then render first message as the "blog" and the rest as comments. Using a special version of Post.template, which check which board its posted in and show different page for it, you can have your own simple post/edit/read-like-blog section.

clarkkent93

I look forward to seeing something done with this.  I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love to beta test this!

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