Everytime I log in it says defination theme, then I change it to default smf default theme. I was thinking maybe that was the problem but that didnt make a difference at all. Crip and I had been conversing for several pm's before this had happened and then poof and Icouldnt talkto him or Bloc, then I had some major things happen at the home front and just now could get back here to let you guys know what was going on, I dont post in the forums much sorry. I mostly read. Anyhow, strange and I appreciate all you do here at the site by the way!