ModX - opensrc CMS w/ integrated SMF (& blog functionality)

[TwinsX2Dad]

Maybe as being part of the team around SMF I feel different..but one of the reasons I put so much work into what I do, is because I trust SMF. If that turns I have been betting on the wrong horse in the long run, doesn't really matter...I hopefully will have created something people will have a use for and having fun doing it. And I do think most of the people behind SMF also thinks this way - none of them get paid, the server is paid for through the charter program, so there is just that one incentive of being part of something good and free.

That's just it, Bloc - I get this feeling you are having fun and you are doing it for others. This is why I have nothing but goodwill toward you. But remember, there were a number of team "members" in the dark and left behind with IPB/IBF went commercial. You're doing it for the fun of it and I am trying and testing it for the fun of it. But there are many who are staking a lot more than fun in their sites. Reputation, history, legacy, all at stake.

his legacy code is a large part of what you think is "strange", and what I think is a stroke of genius.

I have never said the legacy code is strange. What I've said is that the controls of SMF are strange, not intuitive and do not match up well with the competition.

Theming SMF is easier than it is on many message boards. Creating a mod is quite possibly simpler than on many. But to change a setting somewhere or get the software to do what you might want it to do or edit a member, it is light-years behind.

And for someone to continually claim SMF is open source is crazy - it is no more open source than is vBulletin or Invision.

[eldacar]

Some of the settings are pretty strange, I for example don't understand why Karma is based on a single setting, rather than simply being a permission. But that doesn't mean that the settings and admin controls will stay this way..

[Blue Steel]

I for 1 am no longer happy with phpbb and SMF is the only REAL alternative out there that does at least what phpbb does.. and more in a lot of areas.. phpbb is not as secure as SMF but there again they do have a lot more people using it.. and as such are more prone to attacks and people discovering ways to exploit holes in their OPEN SOURCE .. there are many more modules out thewre to for phpbb and thats where a lot of secutity issues lie.. the more mods you install the more prone to holes in the security..

If SFM ever to start to charge then that won't be a supprise to me.. its a dam good piece of software.. and what better way to build up and get people to let them know what features they want than to make it free.. then when you have a good share of the market to start selling it.. its good business sence.. however I for one can't afford to pay.. so if that time ever happens it looks like i'll be forced to go back to phpbb (hopefully by then they'll have phpbbv3 out.. which btw they've spent over a year on going backwards and forwards...

I know that there are other free foeum softwares out there but none of them stack up to phpbb or smf.. i will really be sad if and when they start charging for SMF

Then again by that time others may have started their own you beaut forum software for free.. this is what makes the world go round..

and why should software do things the same way.. they arn't writting clones of each other.. (or are they.. LOL )  I hate IPB and VBull admin.. and templating systems.. its vastly different to phpbb's .. but each to their own..

At the moment I'm happiest with smf followed by phpbb..

As for portals I'm pleased how tinyportal is shaping up.. but no portal / cms software is the be all and end all.. none are ever exactly what your after (this has been my experience for years..) the only way to get exactly what you want is to write it yourself(if your good enough) or pay someone to do it for you.. even then you still mightn't get exactly what you want..

what My idea of a good portal / cms system is is to give the end user controle of what appears where and how.. from the admins side its to present the data that they require in a manner to best suit the end user without having to spend months on changing things when they update or change their contwent or design.. and these days a forum is an integeral part of doing that.. its no good having a great looking site if your fighting with any part of it to get it to do what you want