TinyPortal

I upgraded to FF3, to me it's not good, I am going Back to FF2 & your choice?

firefox 3 looks too much like IE7, and is slower!!

Staying with ff3, looks fine to me, although hate the adress field search :P

FF3, faster on my end. Love the add ons.

Dont like FF3, it sucks all the memory out. Even with 3gb ram, After 4 hours on line using it, it have consumed over 1.2gb ram and have to be restarted  :tickedoff:

G6, thats true..it seem to be memory-hungry. More so than FF2.

Quote from: G6 on August 27, 2008, 04:51:14 PM
Dont like FF3, it sucks all the memory out. Even with 3gb ram, After 4 hours on line using it, it have consumed over 1.2gb ram and have to be restarted  :tickedoff:

I haven't run across that problem yet..who knows.I've had it since day one and no problems, as a fact my system runs fast..don't know why just does..

My Main Reason for going back to FF2 is my Themes, stuff aligned wrong like the small-avatar .clearfix class didn't seem to help on my themes but, looked the same on smf.org .. I must have missed something the designer made for the (userbox-fullwidht) .. :P

But now alls well with FF2 again...

havent run into any memory issues with Firefox 3, it just acts slow. with 2gb of ram, its still a littly jittery with menus popping down for example

Using a Mac may have something to do with it but speed wasn't a problem for either FF2 or FF3

i've had the same issues on multiple computers. older p4 (xp) - this pc has a nvidia quadro video card, slow video is not due to video hardware, newer amd turion x64 (vista, xp, linux, leopard ;) quad boot), g3 imac 400mhz (tiger), g3 powermac 450 mhz (tiger), g4 imac 800 mhz (tiger), g4 powermac quicksilver 867 mhz (leopard).....

multiple systems, all same problem...

Haven't had any of the problems you guys mention. I've left FF3 running since yesterday and its only using 200MB of ram, even with several tabs open. It feels faster than FF2 to me.

Oh, and for those that don't like the ajax like address bar feature, there is an extension built to make it look like FF2's if you want it bad enough. Its called oldbar. :)

must be the iMAC, cuz no kidding B0ss it looked and acted vdery much like IE

Quote from: Crip on August 27, 2008, 04:28:47 PM
I upgraded to FF3, to me it's not good, I am going Back to FF2 & your choice?

FF2 is alot better imo.

Quote from: Crip on August 27, 2008, 09:08:37 PM
must be the iMAC, cuz no kidding B0ss it looked and acted vdery much like IE

what kind of iMac you got thats having issues?

my G4 800 w/ 256mb RAM and Tiger is just a little slow, no major problems. (running like IE? omg)

Well I would have to say Crip, if you compare IE7 to FF3 they look nothing alike. I guess it depends on what version you use.

FF3 is far better than FF2. Awesomebar is like.. awesome after all!

And crip, if your themes aren't displaying how you like in FF3, then fix them! FF2 had CSS errors too, and many have been fixed in FF3.

I like FF3 more than FF2, it looks better and is faster.
I use opera 9.5 too sometimes.

If i could get my themes to look the way there suppose to i'd use FF3 -- I can't fix what i wanted to cuz it's from smf.org site..but the same code looks good on theres ?..like i said i must have missed part of the User-Box=Full-width code?

http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?topic=25709.msg205747#msg205747

here you go crip :)

FF3 has a much slower start-up time (I haven't implement the fix yet) but does seem to run faster once loaded.

But- it has shut down on me on more than one occasion, whereas FF2 very rarely did.

And, I did not like the 'awesome' address bar, and resorted to the 'oldbar' fix. I don't like things like that- just let me type what I want and go to it.

Plus- the status line does not change (though I have it set in the options to allow for this) under FF3. I searched for a fix briefly after discovering this one thing since my menus use it as an additional 'help' line. FF2 and even IE do this properly....

I have problems with connection in it, when i start, i have to manually go in and change the settings for NON proxy, it does not save it eather so everytime i start FF3, i get "proxy settings could not be found" and i have to manually go in and change from proxy to direct connect instead.
Very annoying

It does crash more often, especially on long html pages, 2-3 ajax filled-to-the-brim pages or me moving too fast lmao. And oldbar I installed the same day I updated :)

Seems it still have some clunks to be ironed out, like any other new version. but atm it doesn't present any benefits over FF2 really.

It didn't save all my toolbar bookmarks either like it use to .. it ask my again today to update to FF3 I clicked [never] button until they make some improvements -- FF2 is my baby! :P

Me too lol , I reverted back today. Tired of it crashing 3-4 times day. :P

foxmarks = coolest bookmark add-on. Keeps your bookmarks saved on a server. You can then load them to any computer if you install foxmarks. Haven't had any crashing on my computer what so ever. I'll stick with it if it continues to work. :)

For anyone wishing to do a rollback to FF2 here's a how-to that works well... saves most of your data/settings/whatever.

Mozilla Support Forum Topic... FF3 Sucks! (http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-US&forumId=1&comments_parentId=97012#threadId97118)

Go down the page, look for post by 'Quarantine'

I got it at Scourge force ... Achieves..

Quote from: Crip on August 27, 2008, 04:28:47 PM
I upgraded to FF3, to me it's not good, I am going Back to FF2 & your choice?

Back to FF2 also.

FF3 of course

FF3 isn't bad of course..but it have issues still. I am running exactly the same bookmarks and extensions on FF2, which hasn't crashed once on Google Analytics pages(with much ajax/javascript running), FF3 crashed frequently if I moved too fast on the page lol. :)

Go figure, a browser that can't keep up with the web geeks like Bloc. :P

Who needs bookmarks with awesomebar? ;) I didn't use bookmarks in FF2, and have even less need to now. If you don't like what it shows you, just spend a little time training it and it will learn which URLs to associate with which queries.

I tried that add-on out. I didn't see how it could possibly replace bookmarks. But its a cool idea for the frequently visited URL's.

Replacing bookmarks with that bar? no, no, cannot be done. I need to see what I got, thank you, not having to remember every query/string/keyword :P Besides, I love the option of opening a set of sites with just one click.

Another thing I noticed with FF3 lately(I do have it still, but with another profile to not upset FF2) is that it behaves a bit erratic on passwords. I got -a lot- of saved passwords for different sites and it seems that one or 2 of those javascript/ajax crashes also corrupts or resets passwords..so i am down to remembering those again :P.

FF3 def. needs a bit more work before it get to be my number 1 browser lol. :)

..incidentally, now that the new guy on the block is out(soon) it will be interesting how FF developers reponds to this and its possible success.

I'm totally loving 3. Wouldn't touch 2 with a barge pole these days. Only problem I've noticed is that 3 hangs up on scroll occasionally, but that's a small price to pay for the improved speed and features. I'm running XP by the way.

Awesomebar isn't an addon, it's the default bar.

bloc, why do you need to see? You don't need to remember query strings or keywords, just page titles.

Though multiple sites is something you can only do with bookmarks yes...

I'm still waiting for FF4 though. Tamarin :)

Its kind of pointless to go remember 150-200 bookmarked titles.. ;D I use many reference bookmarks, things I like to re-visit at a later time etc.

Quote from: Dannii on September 03, 2008, 03:07:16 PM
Awesomebar isn't an addon, it's the default bar.

bloc, why do you need to see? You don't need to remember query strings or keywords, just page titles.

Though multiple sites is something you can only do with bookmarks yes...

I'm still waiting for FF4 though. Tamarin :)

Yes, its the new default bar that blows. I instantly installed the oldbar extension. They way they have it now, you can hardly read the contents when all of a sudden a load of **** pops up in your address bar.

I just started with FF2 this week. :) I'd been using IE because I couldn't figure out how to do some things with FF. Finally I got them worked out and FF2 is working very well for me. The only thing I don't like is when the location bar turns yellow when I go to a secure site. The color is very distracting. Is there a way to get rid of that? I understand that the "awesome bar" doesn't turn yellow, which is the only change that I've read about with FF3 that I like.

IchBinâ,,¢, you must have an itty bitty screen then. It doesn't take up much on mine. I wonder if you can reduce the number of URLs it shows...

I like FF3, but the url bar is distracting when typing in it and trying to find the site you want to go to

other than that,

- faster
- less crashing
- not as much of a resource hog

not bad IMO

Quote from: Dannii on September 04, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
IchBinâ,,¢, you must have an itty bitty screen then. It doesn't take up much on mine. I wonder if you can reduce the number of URLs it shows...

I have a 24 inch wide screen. I'm not referring to the amount of space that it takes. I referring to the amount of crap in the text when it pops up. Its hard to even focus on what they've put into it. If they're going to put something like that into the bar, then they better make it easy on the eyes and organized. They way it looks now, is a mess.

QuoteI have a 24 inch wide screen. I'm not referring to the amount of space that it takes. I referring to the amount of crap in the text when it pops up. Its hard to even focus on what they've put into it. If they're going to put something like that into the bar, then they better make it easy on the eyes and organized. They way it looks now, is a mess.

What do you mean? It shows the URL, the page title, and the favicon. It shows the same amount of info as FF2 does, except it now puts the page title first and the URL on a new line. And as they're showing fewer URLs at once, it probably takes the same space.

Quote from: Dannii on September 05, 2008, 03:49:49 AM

QuoteI have a 24 inch wide screen. I'm not referring to the amount of space that it takes. I referring to the amount of crap in the text when it pops up. Its hard to even focus on what they've put into it. If they're going to put something like that into the bar, then they better make it easy on the eyes and organized. They way it looks now, is a mess.

What do you mean? It shows the URL, the page title, and the favicon. It shows the same amount of info as FF2 does, except it now puts the page title first and the URL on a new line. And as they're showing fewer URLs at once, it probably takes the same space.

Not even close to taking up the same space, even showing the same amount of URL's. Attached are two pics. One of the oldbar, and one of the newbar. Its clear, that the oldbar is MUCH more readable and easy on the eyes. Not to mention it takes up half the space. Besides, who ever paid attention to page titles? lol

Ahh, maybe there's a diffference with the Linux or Ubuntu build, as my awesomebar never shows more than 6 pages.

And page titles do help, especially if you want to visit different websites whose URLs start the same. With the old urlbar there was no way to have a unique 2 or 3 letter reference for different pages on the same domain, or with similar domains, and so you either had to scroll to the correct page or click on it. With the awesome bar I can refer to the page title's too, so it's far easier to get to specific facebook pages, or choose between sm.org and the new simple portal site. To get to simple portal I can now type in por+tab+enter rather than sim+scroll down a little+enter.

Strange. Mine shows 12 on both my Windows and Mac machine. No matter though, it all comes down to personal preference. But I do find it much easier to click on a bookmark than rather to type a title like that. lol

Is this one of those things where it thinks it knows what you want and fills it in for you? I hate those things. I turn that function off -- when I can -- whenever I run into it. It's like having a conversation where somebody finishes your sentences for you.  >:(

Buttons and bookmarks are a whole lot easier.

That is exactly what I don't like. Auto-suggest or whatever name you call it, it hinders me when it starts guessing, because my feeble mind is on one train of thought, then that crap pops up, and whoosh! I'm trying to remember what it was I was typing.

A list of static terms (states/color sets/etc) is one thing; something like site addresses is too dynamic for me. Plus, it always seems like a kludge to work in some future advertising.

It's not an auto-suggest, it's working from your history, so it will only show you what you've been to before. It also gets smarter the more you use it, so that what it shows you is more sensible. It learns to associate certain webpages with certain queries.

Buttons and bookmarks are slower in my experience...

I really doubt it has anything to do with advertising, it is FOSS remember... it's actually an experiment in something called "graphical keyboard user interface". Normal graphical mouse UIs are usually easy to use, but much slower than keyboard UIs. Keyboard UIs are hard to use because there's usually no feedback, you have to remember some arbitrary key comination and hope it's the correct one. The awesome bar is an experiment in combining the two: have the speed of a keyboard UI with the feedback and usability of a graphical UI.

Quoteso that what it shows you is more sensible

I don't want it to show me anything. I'm perfectly capable of typing in a URL. And if I don't want to type it in, I'll create a bookmark.

Quote from: JPDeni on September 06, 2008, 04:08:23 AMI don't want it to show me anything. I'm perfectly capable of typing in a URL. And if I don't want to type it in, I'll create a bookmark.

My sentiments exactly.

Now with using it a bit....

personally the only thing I see as an advantage is the memory usage (with multiple tabs open)...the rest of the "new features" SUCK, ) and end up hanging your PC for a bit to adjust...plus alot of my fav addons haven't gotten updated to the new FF

Guess time will tell, but they seem to be bloating a good browser to compete with the rest, which is ridiculous...How many times do true Internet people have to say....NO BLOATWARE...

Might try something else if they are gonna keep this up, seems like they are competing with the slacker MS which holds no ground in my thoughts

Chrome the new FF, I dunno...but they haven't bloated that out yet,,,,

Well my choice is FF2.
I havent read any of the posts on the other pages, just the few above mine.

FF3 seems like they threw a new glossy wrapper, over an old Mars bar.
Sure it offers this n that, but what does it offer, that cannot be provided through FF2?

I admit I havent spent the amount of hours using it as most, so my point of view may change in the future. But for now, FF2 is my main game.

EDIT:  whooa!!  we have an edit bandit!!   pmsl

QuoteI don't want it to show me anything. I'm perfectly capable of typing in a URL. And if I don't want to type it in, I'll create a bookmark.

Both of these options are far less efficient, but if you want to do that, there's no reason why you can't do that and still have the awesome bar there. It won't stop you typing full URLs or using bookmarks.

Anubis, what in FF3 do you consider bloat?

What does it offer? A new Gecko for starters, with such fun things as a native getElementsByClassName and APNG. The non-modal password saver is also more user friendly... it doesn't demand attention, but let you decide at your own pace.

And... FF2 is likely to reach end of life status within a few months so if you want to keep secure you'll need to upgrade.

You think its faster to type than to click? lol Bookmarks will never be replaced by such a feature. Especially for people like me that put multiple bookmarks into a folder. And with one simple middle click all bookmarks in that folder are opened into tabs. There's no way typing in the awesome bar can be as fast as clicking bookmarks.

Quote from: IchBinâ,,¢ on September 06, 2008, 05:07:42 PM
And with one simple middle click all bookmarks in that folder are opened into tabs.

One of the main reasons I like FF! :)

QuoteYou think its faster to type than to click? lol Bookmarks will never be replaced by such a feature. Especially for people like me that put multiple bookmarks into a folder. And with one simple middle click all bookmarks in that folder are opened into tabs. There's no way typing in the awesome bar can be as fast as clicking bookmarks.

Typing is faster than the mouse. The only use I see for bookmarks is as you say, opening multiple pages at once. I don't ever use bookmarks for that, and for single pages typing is quicker.

I type with two fingers. Book marks totally rock.  :P

Well, I upgraded to FF3 and it's not too bad. I was able to eliminate the "awesome bar" completely and stop it from telling me what I want before I finish typing it. I've managed to get everything into one toolbar -- navigation, menu, bookmarks, location bar, and search field. My main idea is to put everything I need in as small a space as possible so I can actually see the websites instead of having my screen filled up with browser stuff. There's a couple more things that I need to figure out how to make smaller and then I'll be happy.

I haven't noticed slowness, but I usually have just one window open at a time -- never more than four -- so that may make a difference.

So I guess FF3 is okay, so long as I can get rid of all of it's "nifty" features. :)

I am more of a FireFox3 fan over v2.  The only thing is that v3 is much heavier in the source code than it was in v2 because of all the updates and addons to the version.

Quote from: Bloc on August 27, 2008, 04:46:50 PM
Staying with ff3, looks fine to me, although hate the adress field search :P

I used an old version of FF on my desktop which I haven't been using much lately.  A couple of weeks ago I installed the latest FF release (3.0.4) and have been using it a lot.  However there does seem to be one problem that's driving me crazy and I don't know if I set something wrong in it or what.

When I go to my SMF/TP Forum it logs me automatically into the Forum as Admin.  When I try to logout it looks like it's going to log me out, but when the page comes back up I'm still logged in as Admin.  This keeps me from using any of the other accounts I have setup on my Forum for testing,, etc. in FF.  I can login and logout normally with IE7.

Has anybody else installed this release of FF and had the same problem?

I already posted a message this morning on the FF Forum but nobody has responded yet.  FWIW, I get a similar, but different problem.  When I try to login to a phpBB Forum with my account in this version of FF, it won't log me in.  This is driving me crazy too because it means that I must use IE to get into that Forum.

ZarPrime

I don't have any issues with that version of FF on several computers using different OS's. You try clearing all your personal information? Tools menu > clear private data

Quote from: IchBinâ,,¢ on November 29, 2008, 12:19:50 AM
I don't have any issues with that version of FF on several computers using different OS's. You try clearing all your personal information? Tools menu > clear private data

Hi Ichbin,

I was going to try that but I went to the FF Forum and asked about it first.  It's now fixed and here's what the FF Tech told me to do, in case anybody is interested, or ever has this problem ...
http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=217237#threadId217700

Thanks for responding,

ZarPrime

Awesome! Thanks for sharing your solution.

FF3 and no other :)

UPDATE: :

FF2 is history for me, I updated To FF3 beta today and it's faster for me..it got to where using FF2 I Couldn't even load  my smf Theme site Profile bcuz it would freeze up totally ... so I did the update I now my smf theme site profile using FF3 loads as fast as Safari and Camino which is lightning fast & ( it's a huge page (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=profile;u=28329) ..lol), before updating I made sure I had all my bookmarks moved to Flock..so alls good now. ;)

The only regret I have about upgrading to FF3 is that Firebug still hasn't been updated to work with it.. So I'm back using Webdeveloper. The one for Chrome is naff.

Oh.. and anybody have any idea why when I use Google, I'm redirected to pages other than those I select from a search.. sometimes it's ebay, sometimes it's another search engine. It's driving me nuts, I think it's spyware, or some trojan.

[edit] It's not specific to FF either, Chrome does it too.

It works on mine bro, actually better ----

Quote from: Crip on January 17, 2009, 08:16:11 PM
It works on mine bro, actually better ----

Yeah.. thanks man, I just found it for FF3 while getting the link for it for a member  :up:

Installing now  8) one of FF's coolest plugins

I forgot to mention I downloaded mine here:
http://www.download.com/8301-2007_4-10066397-12.html

This one is linked from the firebug site: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843

Excellent tool along side of web developer. :up:

My fav plugins.

Firebug
Webdeveloper
Colorzilla
Some ruler thinga
Down Them All
Fireshot (capture plugin)
StumbleUpon

And the ultimate player, Foxy Tunes.. You can play MP3 links from a page and it will list them in a playlist that pops up in a player from the side of the browser. Top banana!

i just have the 2 i put above ... with mac Color-meter, Shift + Command + 4 for any screen-shot brings up cross-hairs to drag, release and upload.. basic everyday tools for me

Quote from: Zetan on January 17, 2009, 07:54:14 PMThe only regret I have about upgrading to FF3 is that Firebug still hasn't been updated to work with it..

Eh, I have FF 3.0.5 with FireBug 1.2.1 running...

QuoteEh, I have FF 3.0.5 with FireBug 1.2.1 running...

Same here but i have firebug 1.3.0 according to the little bugg in the right bottom corner

Quote from: Ianedres on January 18, 2009, 08:57:24 AM

Quote from: Zetan on January 17, 2009, 07:54:14 PMThe only regret I have about upgrading to FF3 is that Firebug still hasn't been updated to work with it..

Eh, I have FF 3.0.5 with FireBug 1.2.1 running...

I simply upgraded Firefox and let the rest of the extensions update themselves.. all of them did, except for Firebug. I've not needed to use it for a while and thought little about it.

Quote from: G6 on January 18, 2009, 10:42:34 AM
Same here but i have firebug 1.3.0 according to the little bugg in the right bottom corner

That's the same version I've downloaded, yesterday.

firebug is an awesome tool, thanks for the recommendation

Quote from: Lord Anubis on January 18, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
firebug is an awesome tool, thanks for the recommendation

Cool  8)
Checkout some of the others I listed, Colorzilla is handy and sits quietly out the way in the bottom left corner, just a tiny box. Use to pick any colour you see on any webpage.

hey that beats doing a screenshot and going into photoshop to get the color code, nice that will come in real handy as well :up:


Now I wish Chrome had addons

Photoshop works, but isn't very accurate. Between, screen, photoshop and print, the differences can be huge. a lot can depend on palette selection, Pantone, ANPA, TRUMATCH, TOYO.. etc

Quote from: Zetan on January 17, 2009, 08:42:53 PM
My fav plugins.

Firebug
Webdeveloper
Colorzilla
Some ruler thinga
Down Them All
Fireshot (capture plugin)
StumbleUpon

And the ultimate player, Foxy Tunes.. You can play MP3 links from a page and it will list them in a playlist that pops up in a player from the side of the browser. Top banana!

Zetan,

I've got Firebug, Web Developer, Colorzilla, and Fireshot installed but I can't even find "Some ruler thinga" anywhere.  What is that, and where do I find it?

ZarPrime

QuoteFirebug
ColorZilla
Foxmarks
NoScripts

These are what i have as plugins and feel they are exactly what i want and need  :D

Ruler can measure pixels on screen.

I use quite lot of plugins:

Ad blocker
BBcodextra
Colorful Tabs
Colorzilla (for getting hex values for colors on apge)
Download statusbar (download manager in the status bar)
Dummy Lipsum (for generating Lorem ipsum texts)
Firebug (for error seeking)
Fission ( Mac type of progress bar, i just like it lol :) )
ForecastFox (getting waether forecast..well, its useful occasionally lmao)
MeasureIt (the ruler)
Search Status (pagerank/alexa for any site)
Research Word (find word in various sites besides Google)
Tweak network
Web developer bar

Phew! :D

Ok, we have a gizmo dude in our portal  :2funny:

Are you sure you couldent find any more addons Bloc  ;D

Geezzz!!! Can you even get it to run Bloc???  :2funny:

runs like a clock. 8)

I had more before, but they would just sit there. At least these are used all the time.  :P

Quote from: ZarPrime on January 19, 2009, 04:47:37 PM

Quote from: Zetan on January 17, 2009, 08:42:53 PM
My fav plugins.

Firebug
Webdeveloper
Colorzilla
Some ruler thinga
Down Them All
Fireshot (capture plugin)
StumbleUpon

And the ultimate player, Foxy Tunes.. You can play MP3 links from a page and it will list them in a playlist that pops up in a player from the side of the browser. Top banana!

Zetan,

I've got Firebug, Web Developer, Colorzilla, and Fireshot installed but I can't even find "Some ruler thinga" anywhere.  What is that, and where do I find it?

ZarPrime

I couldn't remember the name of it.. I was too lazy to look properly. I do believe it's the same one Bloc is using, it's sits quietly next to Colorzilla.

Hi Z,

OK, it must be Measureit then.  I'll look into that one.

;D I was just looking at Bloc's list and thinking of interesting things that the Lorem ipsum generator could be used for.

Dummy Lipsum (for generating Lorem ipsum texts)

ZP

Quote from: ZarPrime on January 20, 2009, 05:39:40 AM
Hi Z,

OK, it must be Measureit then.  I'll look into that one.

;D I was just looking at Bloc's list and thinking of interesting things that the Lorem ipsum generator could be used for.

Dummy Lipsum (for generating Lorem ipsum texts)

ZP

*cough* ZarPrime Lipsum..  *narf* *narf*..  ;D

Quote from: Zetan on January 20, 2009, 07:27:04 AM

Quote from: ZarPrime on January 20, 2009, 05:39:40 AM
Hi Z,

OK, it must be Measureit then.  I'll look into that one.

;D I was just looking at Bloc's list and thinking of interesting things that the Lorem ipsum generator could be used for.

Dummy Lipsum (for generating Lorem ipsum texts)

ZP

*cough* ZarPrime Lipsum..  *narf* *narf*..  ;D

:2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
... sorry, couldn't help myself.

Firefox3 hands down.

Firefox 3, More Support, Activly developed

Have now completely switched to FF3 since all the addons I use are now compatible.

I'm also in problems with FF3 because of extremely slow start...  :down:

Probably will make switch again to Opera.  ;)