Poll
Question: What will you do ?
Today Bloc goes to Sleep. Next day he comes over and announces that Tinyportal will no more be Free.
>:D
What will you do ?
Vote your opinion in the poll.
I dont want answers saying -" Bloc wouldn't do that "
Scared me for a sec there :o Of course I'd buy :coolsmiley:
I'd buy too.
In fact, I hope he charges for something one day.
Hmm.. As a matter of fact, I'll switch back to using SSI functions which i was using before..
While an excellent product, I am an open source man... and hence if/when it goes commercial I would leave town :P
Bloc have stated many times that TP will ALWAYS be free, The themes is what he is expand in the theme shop for get some foundings, but TP it self will always be free :)
Quote from: JRW on September 23, 2006, 09:16:58 AM
While an excellent product, I am an open source man... and hence if/when it goes commercial I would leave town :P
Open Source doesn't mean free as in how much you'd pay but that the code used is freely available to modify and do with as you like, within reason. Freeware is software that is not paid for but is also not usually free to modify.
Paying for software also shows your support. Usually with paid software you get better support but I've yet to see the level of support for paid software that has been given here.
EDIT: and yes, I do support open source and have for many years.
Personally, I think if we all knew what went into this I think we all would feel a bit guilty for not making an effort to give some money to someone, at least make a donation to the cause. I really can’t see why he couldn’t charge a little bit, but again he is a good man and wants to share it with everyone, so rather then charging for it, why not just keep the donations coming in, that does help in some cases.
Quote from: Mrs G6 on September 23, 2006, 09:33:18 AM
Bloc have stated many times that TP will ALWAYS be free, The themes is what he is expand in the theme shop for get some foundings, but TP it self will always be free :)
Lol , this is just a hypothetical situation ,We all know(and hope) that tinyportal will always be free , still Its intresting to know what people would do if it wasnt.
Personally i'd buy it if the price was reasonable.
Personally
I agree with Robert, which is why I donate whenever I received the kind of help that I got from BorgBob and G6.
Because I know how valuable time is, and these people give untiringly to all who seek support here and on SMF. I would have like to donated more but there is a certain restraint on my pocketbook, :2funny:
Quote from: Marian on September 23, 2006, 12:33:30 PM
I agree with Robert, which is why I donate whenever I received the kind of help that I got from BorgBob and G6.
Because I know how valuable time is, and these people give untiringly to all who seek support here and on SMF. I would have like to donated more but there is a certain restraint on my pocketbook, :2funny:
By the way, isn't there some other way a person can donate to the site without having to use Paypal? Some people do not use credit cards.
If they use verified payPal like Bloc here and me on my site, the transfer is just as safe as any payment with a visa card.
But to answer your question, there is no other way to donate money to Bloc or TinyPortal :-\
WHO IN THIS WORLD EDITED MY POLL ?????????????????????????
what did it look like before the edit?
I didn't have the option - "IT WILL REMAIN FREE"
I made the second vote in that poll, and i voted for just that "it will remain free" so for what i know it was there from the start, cant see that it have been edited eather sinse it were created
I made only the first 3 options.
parhaps Bloc might have edited ;)
I was wondering why I didn't remember seeing the "it will remain free" option when I voted....
Maybe it was bloc who edited the poll :2funny:
Anyway i would pay to get TP but only because i know how cool and useful it is. New user would probably not pay without being able to check it out ::)
Quote from: knat on September 23, 2006, 06:13:22 PM
Anyway i would pay to get TP but only because i know how cool and useful it is. New user would probably not pay without being able to check it out ::)
I agree
Quote from: Mrs G6 on September 23, 2006, 01:29:15 PM
If they use verified payPal like Bloc here and me on my site, the transfer is just as safe as any payment with a visa card.
But to answer your question, there is no other way to donate money to Bloc or TinyPortal :-\
Now that you have said that, let me ask you a simple question. Wouldn't it be good to have a mailing address in a PO Box so that people who are not able to send money with a Visa Card or any credit card be something that could be placed into a donation area? Not everyone in the world has credit cards, and I am sure that they too would send money if that option was available to them. Of course I understand about security, but in my eyes, and deep in my heart, I know for a fact that people would send money if there were more options, there is always western union too.
Im not sure about other contries, but here in Sweden you need to have a company in order to have a PO box :-\
The Swedish gouverment got tired of the blackend people that didnt exist other in a PO box so they closed them for all exept registerd comanies with licenses :-\
I was wondering how do u get a "pay by credit card" thing on your webpage?
i'm not talkin paypal - im referring to the international Credit Card payment system
thas really col because you can pay from anywhere using a CC
anyone know anything?
This might be off use to you akulion
http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/creditcards.shtml
Only had a quick read through it myself but it seems to give basic advice.
thanks
:D
There is something called ECheck that you can send through paypal, that way you dont need a creditcard.. I cant really give more info at the moment, so try a search on ECheck and PayPal and see how it works.
If you find info, please post it here, it can be good to know in the future :)
Bloc could do like SMF does and have charter members.. lol... ;)
Its free but charter members get advance releases and more things..
I would pay. Love how it eaisly converts smf from forums into a CMS... :up:
WOW!
Bloc wouldn't do that!
:laugh:
I think it should be a voluntary thing about TP,
If you have a web site that is not making money, then its hards to justify spending money on a web site, which would also prevent you from putting up a web site or at least a good web site in the first place.
On the other hand if you do generate money from your web site then I think a donation for the tools that help you make that money is only fair.
8)
Robert, if you are verified with Pay Pal, which means they have your checking account number and routing number, then the money is drafted directly from your checking account. They do however ask for a backup payment option such as a credit/debit card, but I am not certain it is required.
Afaik you can be "unverified" at Paypal and not attach a credit card to the account. If you have that, and want to donate - but get the credit card require screen when using the button here on this site, try direct sending. The account is "bloc@tinyportal.co.uk".
I do also have a Moneybooker account, but not sure if anyone use that (i use it only for Artichost sake )
Darkman, i haven't touched the poll. Maybe TP just added it itself lol... ;D
lmao, TP's ALIVE!!!
Cant you see in the admin log who changed the poll?
I'm sure we could get someone to just be honest about it here?
i support free and open source concept.
if it is not free i will find other free scripts.
I don't know what the laws are in Norway, but in the UK the laws are not too complicated for having a Merchant account for CC payments via websites. However, the banks normally ask for deposits, advance fees, company registration, etc. So it would cost too much to set up for a site like this.
A possible alternative for anyone looking for one could be SMS text bill for donations. I dont know how good they are, but I did find this site.
http://www.textbill.com/public/home.php
Quote from: IchBinâ„¢ on September 25, 2006, 03:27:20 AM
I'm sure we could get someone to just be honest about it here?
i didnt do it! im innocent :2funny:
hehe..sure I can look in the log, forgot that. :)
gerrymo, its not hard to register a one-man-company in Norway, been thinking to do that for some time. Just that part doesn't cost anything.
Tell us Bloc, Who is the Black Sheep.
well, actually none afaik. Nothing is logged...
Then surely TP must have added itself.
LOL
There is a God!
quote from Purple Rain
Quote from: Darkman on September 25, 2006, 04:36:41 PMThen surely TP must have added itself.
LOL
Bloc's created a monster ...
Quote from: Darkman on September 25, 2006, 04:36:41 PM
Then surely TP must have added itself.
LOL
(https://www.tinyportal.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpath-to-peace.net%2Fforum%2Fmenuicons%2Flookaround.gif&hash=fce1ce65cab5f6549c1070e27108fb869eb20973)
I would pay for the hard work and many tiresome hours that Bloc has put into this project, plus in my opinion this is the best portal that could be used, hell look at MKportal that software hasn't been updated in ages...and the few additional features that it does have Bloc is quickly creating and improving....
So yes I wouldn't mind paying, but I always like things for free too :)
I like free stuff. ;D
But knowing how useful it is I'd pay for TP in a heartbeat.
Before I pay though, I want the option to add mirrors in the downloads section. Also the ability to arrange each download how I choose. i.e. by date, name, and so on.
I'm running off to make a donation before anyone gives me grief about requesting features here ;)
LOL the one thing I wouldn't mind is a topsites...
I will be donating as well when I get paid :)
MKportal for me...
Quote from: General_Sun on July 07, 2007, 05:11:50 AM
MKportal for me...
Whatever suits your needs. There's no problem with MKportal if thats what you're looking for.
Well I'm looking for TP! :D But in case TP goes the paid route I'll probably shop around for some other cms...
Just to discourage TP from going paid, hah.
haha. Well if TP went paid I probably wouldn't be here either if thats any consolation to you. :) I certainly believe Bloc would deserve anything he would gain by doing so, but I have my own personal reasons for being here. I'm a believer in the Free Software Movement.
Hell look at the great support here, you cant get that anywhere! and that is a promise... I simply love TP, and this forum makes it that much more enjoyable
Probably have said it before but..TP will always be free, as SMF is free. But in the worst case scenario that SMF goes paid, neither myself or TP will stay with it. Judging by the SMF teams opinions thats not even a option so.. :)
Not that it is anything wrong wih paid software, quite contrary, if it has quality it deserves its price. But this project is built on the premise of being free for everyone, just as I have enjoyed free scripts and software for years. I am not in it for the money - although the paid themes provide some income, its a long way from coverering the time spent lol. But thats perfectly ok of course. I do it because I enjoy it. :)