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Development => Support => Installation => Topic started by: comanchero18 on August 01, 2006, 08:21:44 PM

Title: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 01, 2006, 08:21:44 PM
And keep all the information?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: IchBin™ on August 01, 2006, 08:28:53 PM
With TinyPortal there is no "conversion process". TinyPortal is a modification to the SMF forum. So anything to do with your SMF forum will not lost, but added to. As for any other web pages you have outside of the forum, they can be added to articles and stuff.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 01, 2006, 08:53:50 PM
Someone else got my site up for me using SMF then I found the Helios Milticolor theme I want to use but don't know much about how to install, like where do I  browse to from package manager to get the download?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 01, 2006, 09:03:48 PM
I guess I should start at the beginning, how do I back up my data & Modifications?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: IchBin™ on August 01, 2006, 09:25:43 PM
You can backup your database in the Maintenance section of your Admin panel for SMF. Just copy your files from your website to your hard drive to back them up. You download TinyPortal from this website, and then you find it on your hard drive when you go into the package manager. If you have mods installed then it will most likely fail in some aspects. But you can always remove the mods, install TP and then try to reinstall your other mods.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 01, 2006, 10:00:04 PM
Someone else got my site up for me using SMF then I found the Helios Milticolor theme I want to use but don't know much about how to install, like where do I  browse to from package manager to get the download?

See how this works for you:

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?topic=6771
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 02, 2006, 09:33:52 AM
Backed up my site to Mydocs showing up as a SQL file and a copy is in my winzip using the back up database and ckecking the following,

Save table structure
Save the table data. (the important stuff.)
Compress the file with gzip.

So now my question is...What it a mod? And How do I disable them and do I save them in a seperate folder? 

Please keep in mind this is my first try at anything like this.  Thanks in advance for all your help. c
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Crip on August 02, 2006, 09:41:33 AM
Tiny portal is a mod made for SMF, download it and install the zip via your package manager..you'll be glad ya did. ;)
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: IchBin™ on August 02, 2006, 09:47:01 AM
I'd say you need to do a bit of reading before you try and do anything. Head over to http://mods.simplemachines.org/ to see what mods are. You don't disable most mods. If you want to turn them off you probably have to uninstall them. There's a short install guide here that you'll need to read when you're ready to install.

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?topic=6771
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 03:04:16 PM
I can't seem to download the Tp theme from winzip when I go to package manager, browse it want to download winzip and won't let me find the Tp file I want to download???
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: IchBin™ on August 03, 2006, 03:06:44 PM
you don't need to do anything with winzip. You install the theme as a zip file in the theme manager.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 03:16:49 PM
I try to download from my desktop and it states "The package you tried to upoad either is not a valid package or has become corrupted".

The package I am trying to upload is "Helios Multicolor"

Thanks, c
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 03:22:36 PM
It sounds like you're trying to install a theme and not TinyPortal, itself.

Try this:
http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item99

Just upload and install that through the Package Manager and it should work.

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?topic=6771
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 03:24:10 PM
Ichbin,
Wow, that was really easy but I been struggling for two days to try and figure the thing out.  And the theme works great.  Now I'll be changing themes like I change my socks.  Thanks again for all your help, c
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 03:25:12 PM
Ok, now you really got me, what is Tiny Portal?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 03:28:59 PM
Oh, nevermind, I was thinking you were still trying to get TP installed.

Or I am really confused ...
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: IchBin™ on August 03, 2006, 03:35:04 PM
www.tinyportal.co.uk
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Crip on August 03, 2006, 03:37:01 PM
Lmao.. ;D
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Xarcell on August 03, 2006, 03:40:39 PM
:D
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 04:26:04 PM
How do I install tiny portal or where do I upload it from?  It works with SMF and the new theme I assume to give the theme more options and a homepage that doesn't look like a forum?  Thanks, c
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Xarcell on August 03, 2006, 04:30:48 PM
I'm confused. I thought you did it already?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Xarcell on August 03, 2006, 04:31:32 PM
You install tiny portal through the package manager of SMF.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 05:14:00 PM
I installed a theme, Helios Multicolor, is that different than tiny portal? I thought Tiny portal was something that gave me options for the theme?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: G6Cad on August 03, 2006, 05:18:01 PM
TinyPortal is the mod for SMF forums that makes the side blocks to the forum show like they do here.
The themes are eather made for smf WITH tp installed, or just plain SMF with out side blocks

If you want to have blocks that wraps your forum into a portal like we have here, you need to install the TinyPortal mod to your existing SMF forum install.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 05:20:46 PM
You have to install TinyPortal, first.

Then, you install the TP themes.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 05:52:22 PM
where do I install tiny portal? In admim maintence somewhere?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 06:00:24 PM
Download this:

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item99


And install through the Package Manager:

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?topic=6771
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Xarcell on August 03, 2006, 06:25:37 PM
I didn't realize he had not installed TP.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 09:02:50 PM
First I turned off the theme "Helios Multicolor", installed Tiny Portal on the theme settings, it turned the screen background white, went back in and changed the theme to HM but it doesn't look like TP installed.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 09:12:06 PM
I didn't realize he had not installed TP.

Neither did I.

I'm still confused.

Did you upload the package through the Package Manager?

ADMIN >> Main >> Packages >> DOWNLOAD PACKAGES >> Upload a Package >>


BTW, are you using 1.1 RC2?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 09:25:59 PM
Got it all to work but then my boards disappeared when I switched the theme to HM. Don't know how to get them back.  Uninstalled TP but it left itself in place.  All my boards are showing up in Admin. Is there a way I can get it to look like the default with the HM theme?   Looks like TP won't go away.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 09:29:39 PM
This is the message I get when I click admin on the home page.

This block should be visible for admins only - no membergroups are set to be allowed to view it. As default new blocks will have all membergroups and guests checked.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 09:36:35 PM
You want TP, you need TP.

I think what you've done is downloaded the theme that is for SMF, not TP (?).

Make sure TP is installed and working properly. Switch to "SMF Default Theme - Core" and get TP to work properly.

Then try this theme, which is for TP (1.1 RC2):

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item82
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 09:51:59 PM
TP works ok but I wanted the default look with the block on one side.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 09:54:11 PM
Like the way this page looks when click forum.  I wanted the Helios Multicolor with blocks, I had HM without blocks.  How can I remove TP and put blocks in to HM? or is that a different forum?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 10:04:23 PM
No, you don't need to remove TP, you need to keep TP.

Often times when someone can't see the blocks it's because they installed the theme that was designed for SMF only and not TP. This site has some of the same themes for both SMF and TP and if you install the SMF theme in TP, it won't show / work properly.

So, assuming that's what you did, you should probably uninstall the Helios Multi that you installed and install this one, instead:

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item82

Do that, and you should see the blocks.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 10:24:18 PM
That worked, thank you. Now could you please help me to get my boards to show on my home page?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 10:35:24 PM
ADMIN >> TinyPortal >> Settings >> FRONTPAGE >> What to show on frontpage:

Play around with those until you find what you want.

Glad to help. :)

Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 10:37:25 PM
it's the forum thats not showing up unless you go to a recent post then click the fourn link.  It was on my home page before I did all this.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 10:40:04 PM
Don't see a front page in Admin/Tiny Portal/Settings
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 10:43:18 PM
Can you manually check your files through FTP?

If so, go to where you installed SMF / TP and check to make sure everything got uploaded and make sure none of the sizes are "0".

If they didn't, unzip the TP package that you downloaded from here to your computer and manually upload the files / folders to your server.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 10:57:07 PM
Don't know what FTP is.  The front page looks like this...

Admin
News

Then there is a retangular box with curved edges on top and my website name.  It's highlighted but when I click it nothing happens.  After I click a recent post the boards show up in that box.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: anunlike on August 03, 2006, 11:03:44 PM
Can I get a link?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 11:10:27 PM
sanrafaelpua.com
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: IchBin™ on August 03, 2006, 11:36:25 PM
comanch, you need to go into your admin panel. On the left you'll see a link for TinyPortal "Settings". Then look for a link that says Frontpage, or Frontpage Settings. On that page you'll find the option of what you can display on the frontpage, the forum being an option.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 03, 2006, 11:52:46 PM
That has been tried, don't see option in my settings but I do see blocks under settings and a front page editor there but it doesn't look like I can do anything there.  Also prvious post on this link have adressed that issue.  I Uninstalled TP but it's still working on my site.  My webmaster just told me he thinks he can go into my PHP or something like that and fix it. 
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Xarcell on August 04, 2006, 07:08:02 AM
If you want blocks on your site, you have to have TP installed. Unless you have someone to create a theme with blocks in it, but TP does that for you without having to hire someone to build a custom theme.

Now, I don't think TP is uninstalled. If it was, it still wouldn't be showing up. Go to your package manager, click "browse packages". Does it say "uninstall tiny portal" or "install tinyportal"?

Also, I agree with anunlike. I Don't think your using a TP enabled theme HM. I will find the link for you. One sec...
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Xarcell on August 04, 2006, 07:11:57 AM

Uninstall your current HM theme, go to admin > themes & layout > themes & settings > find the HM theme and click the red X. Then in your SMF root directory(FTP) go to Themes > HM theme and delete the folder.

K, after uninstalling your HM theme. This download and install this one:

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item82
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: Xarcell on August 04, 2006, 07:12:28 AM
BTW, don't bother installing the that theme if you don't have TP installed.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: eldacar on August 04, 2006, 08:13:16 AM
I suggest you start again.

Reset everyone to the default SMF theme, and disable (temporarily) the changing of themes.
Upload the SMF files again, overwriting everything but Settings.php
Install TP through the package manager
Install the Helios Multi TP version theme.
Allow everyone to change themes again, and reset everyone to use HM_TP.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 04, 2006, 10:47:04 AM
Not quite sure I understand. How do I disable the changing of themes.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 04, 2006, 10:49:46 AM

Uninstall your current HM theme, go to admin > themes & layout > themes & settings > find the HM theme and click the red X. Then in your SMF root directory(FTP) go to Themes > HM theme and delete the folder.

K, after uninstalling your HM theme. This download and install this one:

http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item82


What is FTP and root directory?
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: G6Cad on August 04, 2006, 12:36:30 PM
FTP is a program you use to transfer files from one server or a local machine to another.
It looks just like your local file system with folders and files. Just like moving folders and files between harddrives :)

The root directory is the first folder (main folder) also called public_html or in your local machine it is called drive C:/root
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: agridoc on August 04, 2006, 02:22:21 PM
comanchero18 you can have a look at
http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/frontdoor/beginners.html

I think you will find http://www.webmonkey.com/ useful now and later.

It would be useful to have a tour there, it will teach you the essentials of website building.
Title: Re: Can I convert a existing website with SMF to Tiny Portal
Post by: comanchero18 on August 04, 2006, 04:08:09 PM
Thanks agridoc.