I've been messing around with Dreamweaver 8...and... I'm getting pretty good.
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I'm doing this site for a free host. I'm not done yet but it looks pretty good so far. :)
If you have any comments or sites you did with dreamweaver just share it.
i like dreamweaver, even though i don't know much about it. i use it as my editor for code...
Likewise Xarcell, I still essentially hand code, but use Dreamweaver to insert the things I want. I like it as a program. I have used it to view and edit php as well, but don't let it update links when you save.
I took a computer course during the summer for web design using dreamweaver ,The only thing i learned there was how to put rollover effects on images i already knew everything else so it was kinda a waste of a week. I usually only use dreamweaver for editing the xml and .mod files used to create mods.
I always hard code everything. Old habit I guess...
I used to use Dreamweaver quite a lot, and still do when building sites with a MySQL backend as it makes the connections etc much easier to do. For most stuff though I use Notepad2 and for things like rollover/hover effects etc I just code it into css.
Wolfenrook
Never use DW unless there is a site with just html pages - then its great to use the template functions of it. But for everything else- also themes: plain text-editor or PHP-editor all the way. :)
I use Dreamweaver and like it pretty much, and I really like what you have done with it, looks great!
Quote from: Bloc on September 20, 2006, 11:05:05 PM
...plain text-editor or PHP-editor all the way. :)
Whoot Whoot! Fight the power! :D
I agree Jpg, it's very impressive to see them actually site there and typ in a lot of codes and then ... there it is, all in place..
They must have a very good visual image inside the head when all the code are being made :)
When you think design, think how elements move and relate to each other..dont worry about "pixelperfection" at first. That will only confuse...
Let say you have a page where you like to have 3 columns and 3 rows( a 3x3 "grid"), the middle being across the whole width. You need a table. First a tr and 3 td, then a tr and a 1 td with colspan=3 and at last tr + 3 td again. Done with the grid. Now you worry about whether the left column MUST be 200 pixles for example..and so on. Next is filling thsi grid with the elements.
Another approach is using just divs...in this scenario you need to think a bit different, because divs is just one-cell elements(where a table is a multi-cell)..so rather first 1 single div, with 3 divs inside it - "floated" left - then 1 div again and finally 1 div with 3 floated divs inside once again. Sadly you also need some css "trickery" for it work good in all browsers..but thats not the fault of the div/css code at least.
As you can see...if you just feel comfortable with the basic building blocks, you can always look up the details later, like css attributes etc. Then a plain text-editor AND some sort of preview are all you ever need. Dreamweaver has these things..but its just too easy! You never learn to "see it in your head" like the manual approach will do...then you will never truly be free to do whatever you like and experiment. Not to mention being familair with your own code so errors can be found easily! ;D
PHP code is special..there you need to think as the html part is just a "tool" for PHP's many uses. First you calculate some math in php, and say you want the result back into html..for example the colum width is calculated: "echo" is your friend. It will make it as the page suddenly outputs html. And then you can stop the html again..do more code stuff..and finally outputting the rest of the html. The page doesn't actually render before everything in the php page is executed.
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...to complex still lol? :)
In a way yes, but when you sit there and try diffrent things in a plain editor, and then preview the code in Eg :FF, it make a lot of sense :)
I think im for one, think to much instead of just DO and then view, and then go back and edit, and then view again, kind of having a puzzle with 1000 bits and try bit for bit until it fits and added a image to the whole puzzle :)
This is just a thought out of my brain: When I first started out doing a website, I use to use Front Page because I was told it was the best software out on the market for creating websites, then after about a year, I was told that Dreamweaver was the top website design software that all developers used in the professional world. Now, I keep hearing that in order to have a good website there is that, and this and that, and I sit here really wondering what the best out there is.
I am happy with Dreamweaver, mainly because I use Adobe and it just falls into place with all my software. I really wouldn’t call myself a web developer at all, I just mainly design some of the graphics and apply them to the site, and let the webmaster do his/her thing. It is a lot of working in the design mood, and a lot of trial and error on my part, but needless to say that is what I do. There are some really cool programs out there on the market that can do almost everything that Dreamweaver can do, however most people don’t like to use something different because they are use to using one thing for so long, and to take the time to learn a new program just is to them a waste of time. â€Ã...“Why change if it already worksâ€Ã,Â
I am still learning how to code, and that is going to take a little while to learn, but I think that someday someone is going to design a software that will do it all for you, and you won’t have to be that creative. But you take most of your theme designers, and graphic designers, and they will tell you what is about the best to use when it comes to the over all design of good website. I also see in the future that websites are going to take a dramatic turn, and we are going to see more and more high graphic sites popping up all over the place, and is mainly because of faster download times of the graphics, and soon those people who are still using dial up, will be forced to make the change. At this point who really knows, but all I can say is that the future of web design is very good.
QuoteI also see in the future that websites are going to take a dramatic turn, and we are going to see more and more high graphic sites popping up all over the place, and is mainly because of faster download times of the graphics, and soon those people who are still using dial up, will be forced to make the change. At this point who really knows, but all I can say is that the future of web design is very good.
Im not so sure about that part, the last year alone i think it have turned the opposit way, very light graphic designs and more css based layouts for faster browsing.
This is mainly ( my thought now ) because the "new" era of wap and mobile technology, every thing seem to turn in to very light and fast browsing with less SQL queries.
I think the "new" internet will all be based on mobile technology then any thing else. ;)
truth is:
the best is what ur most comfortable with
Carina, thats true.
The trend is going away from massive sized table-based design + heavy graphics to light css based designs, both for wap and being consutant on all browsers etc. But now designers also learn to use css approach better and the graphics re-appear - although not like the typical multiple pieces like before.
I just dived into this for SMF themes, so much to learn yet..but its more freedom actually.