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General => Chit chat => Topic started by: trench on March 20, 2006, 05:23:38 AM

Title: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: trench on March 20, 2006, 05:23:38 AM
This week SMF Forums have been really slow for me.  I looked at the users and there is close to 1000 almost constantly. Anyone else getting his lag?  Im using Cable, and dont have problems with other webpages
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: eldacar on March 20, 2006, 06:40:09 AM
Yes there are a few server issues with it. They are trying to get it fixed, or else get it replaced soon.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: ontap on March 20, 2006, 06:52:03 AM

gota agree, there site is very slow lately and very annoying 2!
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: TwinsX2Dad on March 20, 2006, 07:55:39 AM
Very slow and up/down.

I hope they weren't promised 99.9% uptime.   :laugh:
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: G6Cad on March 20, 2006, 08:14:56 AM
As Bloc and IchBin said in another post, The Staff at SMF forum are well aware of the bw on the forum.
I think it was slow and off/on cause of major rebuilding of the scripts, forum and database.
So i guess it's ok and not an error from the host or uptime issues.

I cant find the thread here where they pointed out why and the reasons, just know it doesent have anything to do with the host though  :)
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: TwinsX2Dad on March 20, 2006, 08:48:52 AM
Oh no - they broke their own service?   :o

Say it isn't so!

I thought they might be above doing what every other site owner has done! 

Actually, I think what eldacar said has some merit - the rebuilding wouldn't cause what we've been seeing, unless it was being done by novices. It is definitely being caused primarily by server and load issues. But I'd not rule out some scripting and database stumbles.

Then again, all any of us are doing is speculating.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: eldacar on March 20, 2006, 09:46:23 AM
From what the staff have been saying, something is being backed up badly and is draining resources.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: TwinsX2Dad on March 20, 2006, 09:55:04 AM
I am not privy to what they've been saying - to be fair, I look over there only to see if there is anything which might pertain to my installation.

What I'd be curious to find out is what is causing the bad backups. Are they doing it through SMF, through the host or through a cron job?

I do all of mine through a cron job - then the backups are downloaded to my local network servers. I've never been one to trust the backup functions of any message board, primarily because I've always done it from the root and get these really nice little tarballs.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else. (especially SEARCH)
Post by: iowamf on March 20, 2006, 01:05:08 PM
That site is often frustrating to use - especially the search.

Improving the Advanced Search would be a win:win to all - the search process is painfully slow.

It is a shame, but too often searching via google is better than SMF's own search.

Its even worse when people flame others to "do a search" - but then the search is disabled or returns pages and pages of poorly sorted results.

For starters I'd suggest changing the Advance Search option defaults from:

  * 9999 days old (~27 years ago) to release dates or at least not so huge

and

  * perhaps in addition to searching by "user:" to be able to search by &/! groups.

Example, I'd much rather a find a post about functionality from someone in the "staff" group than someone in the "newbie" group and would prefer posts NOT from the Apple II era.  :idiot2:

A poor search function can frustrate both the users and the support community who are sincerely trying to help - and it can kill a server's performance as well.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: eldacar on March 20, 2006, 02:10:51 PM
Although searching does take resources, it isn't the main source of slowness.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: TwinsX2Dad on March 20, 2006, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: eldacar on March 20, 2006, 02:10:51 PM
Although searching does take resources, it isn't the main source of slowness.

It can be, if so many are searching at once.

And don't forget - the 'Show unread' and 'Show replies' are search functions.

Disable the search on a message board and the server load is at least halved - more if the search feature is particularly resource intensive.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: trench on March 21, 2006, 06:48:13 AM
okay. thanks for all the responses. I thought it was just me.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: (Ô¿Ô) on March 21, 2006, 09:01:53 AM
The smf site is a joke.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: anunlike on March 21, 2006, 10:19:47 AM
Never had any problems with the site; search, posting or anything, myself. Never noticed differences in speed with anything and I'm on 56K dial-up.
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: eldacar on March 22, 2006, 04:55:29 AM
Or prehaps anunlike lives in a different time zone from the rest of us, and so doesn't access it at the same time and misses the problems?
Title: Re: SMF slow for anyone else.
Post by: IchBin on March 22, 2006, 06:14:25 AM
I deleted some posts here. If people and their posting ediquette don't start to use a little discretion I'm going to go crazy. From here on out consider me the Moderating Nazi. If I see anything that even makes me think it will turn a thread ugly, I will delete it. You have a problem with it, PM me. Otherwise, if your post gets deleted maybe you should think about what you said.