thx again Zar
ijust got the green theme template sorted i hope
but if you look on my front page (u may need to refresh constant edits still!) you see the top 2 posts i use for announcing have their original dates in big script -- can i get rid of the dates i wonder?
my main errors at the moment involve TPShout http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?pretty;action=tpadmin&sa=blocks
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8: Undefined index: article_categories
File: /home*******/fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 3553
and i am trying toggling shout block options re language etc
Quote from: stog on May 22, 2010, 02:18:42 PM
my main errors at the moment involve TPShout http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?pretty;action=tpadmin&sa=blocks
Apply Filter: Only show the errors with the same message
8: Undefined index: article_categories
File: /home*******/fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 3553
OK, Ken just logged in so I'm going to see if I can get hold of him. He had a similar error to this one during the Alpha testing. He may have some ideas on this one.
ZarPrime
thx Zar was just working on that!
what did Ken say btw? :)
Didn't get hold of him yet. He just came on real quick and then logged back off. I may try to get hold of him on Skype if I see him on.
In the meantime, I will do a little more research on that error to see what I can find. It is likely a problem with one of your blocks though. I just noticed that you have 3 blocks down near the bottom that have no content in them. If those have custom code, you might want to try turning those off, clear out your error log, and see if the error still shows up. If it doesn't then the problem is probably the code in one of those blocks. Because it is an eval'ed error, a bad block is the likely culprit. Turning off eval may give us the correct place to look for the error. Do you know how to do that?
ZarPrime
yes those contain article categories -- i was just starting to see if i could get them to show -- i wonder if it is because i have only forum posts in the front page settings, or that they were 'front page blocks' from 0.98?
maybe i'll turn em off first -- and check
i think it is something to do with articles & categories
if u look at http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?cat=1
u don't ever get to see the articles or cats! (i did assign a category after the first mistaken install of tp 1, before this installation)
i ve tried changing their settings to a set width but am wondering whether they are trying to appear along with blocks?
Got you PM ZP. :up:
I looked back through the recent Alpha topics and didn't find much that would help on this shoutbox issue. What may have happened was that I may have just waited until the next release in the series of Alphas, because that was the approach used in several cases... in any case I don't remember specifically what happened about the shoutbox errors.
One thing that did happen several times was manual installs because whenever something goes haywire in the files my opinion has been that a manual install is the simple and easy fix.
In reading through this topic from the first page through to the last the thing that jumps out at me is this... too much stuff going on.
Not trying to be critical, just saying. ;)
We should forget about any theme work until the forum is running right, so if the current issue is the shoutbox(?) then the forum should be in the SMF default theme and any work should be focused on just that one issue until it's resolved and then move on to the next.
Sorry that I'm not being more helpful.
Well, you're right Ken, this topic did get a little bit out of control. However, I don't think the error has anything to do with the Shoutbox. I think it has to do with 1 or more "Articles in a Category" blocks. I'm looking at stog's site right now with the default theme at an article category that is supposed to contain articles but none are showing up ...
http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?theme=1;cat=1
Stog, that category does have articles in it, correct? Check the Category settings and make sure that the articles in it are set to show to Guests. Ken, that link should should the articles in that category. The problem is that he had 3 old "Articles in Category" blocks when he was using TP 0.98 but when he upgraded, those blocks no longer show any content. I seem to remember Ichbin working on a similar problem with someone back a couple of weeks ago but I can't put my fingers on that topic right now.
ZarPrime
thx the link should be http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?cat=1 - default theme for all is the green - which is modded for other areas. Some of the asrticles may have been for varying membergroups but am going through them now
my problem with working with core theme is that there are mods set to the custom and so it is far simpler to now check with the custom green. i am however checking from time to time with core as i switch things on/off
the cat 1 articles referenced by the link above - can be seen by clicking the links in the right hand menu - they do display - but the category lists seem only available to admin
toggled pretty url's for tp articles to off btw
thx for e'one's input
Well, when Ken mentioned the default theme, he was talking about the default SMF theme, not the default theme for your site, which can be a custom theme, as it is in this case. Mods should always be installed to the SMF default theme, at least with SMF 1.1.x. This is not required with SMF 2.0. Anyway, what ken was talking about is that when trying to make things work correctly, you should alwasy try to make them work with the default SMF theme, and then, once they are working right, get them working with the custom theme.
Anyway, I think this error is with that particular type of block, whichever theme is in use. I seem to remember that there were some problems with that particular block that Bloc was working on but I just can't recall what the deal was with it. My test site is using TP 1.0 beta 5.2 now and the "Article in Category" blocks are working fine so I can't duplicate the problem.
Ken is looking at a couple of links that I sent him where he reported similar errors right now to see if he can recall what it was all about. If he can't figure out anything, then maybe Ichbin will have some thoughts on it when he gets on. In the meantime, I am going to split the posts out of this topic concerning the "articles in Category" error because, as Ken mentioned, this topic is basically out of control.
ZarPrime
cheers
i noticed that in article admin the attached tab -- which links http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?action=tpadmin;sa=clist
errors telling me i don't have permission
also have included the edit article pic - just querying the icon files , bearing in mind that was how a previous exploit occurred-- are they bona fide files i wonder?
All that Catlist link does is give you a page that let's you choose "Which categories should appear in the Category tabs?" so I don't think that is an issue, at least not concerning the error we are talking about. Ichbin has an SMF 1.1.11 / TP 1.0 beta 5-1 test site up so we can have him check this later if you are having a permission issue with that.
ZarPrime
Quote from: ZarPrime on May 22, 2010, 06:16:17 PM
Ken is looking at a couple of links that I sent him where he reported similar errors right now to see if he can recall what it was all about.
ZarPrime
Thanks for the links ZP.
For most of those times during the Alpha process I was reporting the various issues and then waiting for the next release during those Alpha sessions because a given issue would generally be fixed or changed in the next release. That doesn't really help much in this case I'm afraid.
Thanks for the help Ken.
Stog, those images are OK. They come with TinyPortal. If you want to look at them they are located here on your site --> /public_html/YourSite/tp-files/tp-articles/illustrations
I need to take a break for awhile. I don't know yet whether not being able to see the articles when using ?cat=1 is related to the block error. Maybe Ichbin will see this and remember something on this. I'll be back later.
ZarPrime
thx again -- have a good w'end - we must get outside -- it's beautiful -- thx again for helping me get the forum back on line - and cheers for the mighty s'ware too e'one
ok
some observations..
i have trawled through all the categories - resetting who can see them
then the articles themselves
and then re-assigned the Articles Link from the front page and eventually got all the category headings to link true.
then i went to the front page blocks that were article categories, and moved them to either left or right blocks -- which brought up a dialogue "saying they weren't assigned to show on any page - i clicked 'front page , and they work.
however if i try moving them back to being a front page block they don't..
right thx for e'one's help -- i think 24 hours is well enough time spent :)
beerrrrrrrrrrrr and more beer !
ps the TPortal.php errors seem to have gone now that the categories are better sorted and the frontpage article categories moved
now only the Undefined index: article_categories
File: /home/*********fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 3553 errors remain, but they stack up!
Quote from: stog on May 22, 2010, 09:59:53 PM
however if i try moving them back to being a front page block they don't..
ps the TPortal.php errors seem to have gone now that the categories are better sorted and the frontpage article categories moved
now only the Undefined index: article_categories
File: /home/*********fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 3553 errors remain, but they stack up!
OK, there could very well be some errors with the Front Panel. Unfortunately, right now, I don't have the latest beta installed on an SMF 1.1.11 install, only on SMF 2.0 RC3. I have TP 1. beta 4 / SMF 1.1.11 test site so maybe I should go ahead and update that one to the latest version so that I can start testing some of these errors I've heard about with the Front Panel.
Anyway, you're right, we need to take a break from this for awhile and you need to do some more experimentation with the new version. I know you put the category blocks in the right panel and they work now which is a good thing. I don't know why you're still getting that error though unless it's coming from another block.
Here's something I wanted mention to you though you have probably already figured it out. TP 0.98 had 4 panel types I believe (Front, Left, Right, and Center). With the new version, the center panel has been replaced with an upper and a lower panel and 2 other panels have been added as well (Top and Bottom). You should be able to put those category blocks in the Lower Panel and get the same look you had previously, if you wanted to do that. Have a look at my Beta 5.2 test site here --> http://talesofthehavenexpanse.com/smf2test/index.php
If you scroll down the FP, you'll see test blocks for all the panels except the left and right , which are obvious. If you scroll all the way to the bottom, you'll see the Lower Panel Test and, right below that one, you'll see 2 blocks side by side in the same panel (Cat List and Guild Officers). All 3 of those blocks are in the Lower Panel and it is set up as a grid, 1 on top and 3 side by side (though I only have 2 side by side right now). Those 2 blocks are both "Articles in Category" blocks.
Finally, I wanted to mention one other thing to you. I know this weekend has been a long one for you and me both. However, and I don't want you to take this wrong because I like that green background color on your site, that green combined with the blue colors of the SMF core theme is absolutely horrid, IMHO. I think you should eventually consider upgrading your SMF to 2.0 RC3 so that you can use some of the new modern themes that are available. Bloc and Crip both have some excellent themes for the latest version of SMF that are worth taking a look at for your site. For instance, take a look at these links showing 3 different Crip themes on my test site ...
http://talesofthehavenexpanse.com/smf2test/index.php?theme=10
http://talesofthehavenexpanse.com/smf2test/index.php?theme=17
http://talesofthehavenexpanse.com/smf2test/index.php?theme=18
That second one is not quite as bright as the green you have on your site but it's nice anyway. The first one may be a little dark for you but the 3rd one would be perfect for a Backgammon site like yours because most boards use colors similar to those. The problem with upgrading is that most of the php blocks you have that use custom code may have to be edited to work with SMF 2.0. Also, other SMF Mods that you use on your your site now will not will work and you will need to look to see if they have been updated to work with the new SMF. The easiest way for you to work on this would be to clone your live site to a test site so that you have an exact copy of your current site and then you can upgrade that instead of doing it on your live site. That lets you work on the test site without disturbing your members and, when you are ready, you can upgrade the live site. This is just something to think about for the future.
ZarPrime
thx Zar
i appreciate the comments (the lower panels work great on front page ty)
also i can confirm that a single article in a front page panel, works, whereas articles in a category do not.)
i have actually been preparing for an smf 2 upgrade but as it is still RC and some of the mods i require notfinished yet - i shall hold off..
i will deffo have a look at some of the theme suggestions and your test site
i wanted to change the green originally (to a grey olive green) but it is funny how we all get used to something!
i usually use adagio or corto type themes with other sites but the backgammon site was more difficult as it was based round tp 0.98 or earlier, when i took it over
thx for all your suggestions
and to the team for beta 1.5.1
fine work -- especially considering the complexity and varied function of the mod - allied to u having to adapt to the evolving RC's!
most of the errors now are for access to old article pages, some are pretty url some are not
eg
http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?pretty;page=55
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8: Undefined index: in
File: /home/********fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 1752
or
http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?page=The Fibsleagammon Masters Final, Session 36
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8: Undefined index: on
File: /home/*******fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 1674
also in tp admin
Apply Filter: Only show the error messages of this URL http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?action=tpadmin;sa=blocks
Apply Filter: Only show the errors with the same message
2: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
File: /home/********fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 3553
just noticed this error on action=tpmod;shout (when clicking tpshout from Modules and tags/tp admin)
"Unable to load the 'main' template."
are these undefined index/language/shoutbox errors
8: Undefined index: on
File: /**********fibsboard.com/user/htdocs/Themes/default/languages/TPShout.english.php (main sub template - eval?)
Line: 1674
related to
"it ain't easy being green" becoming
it ain't easy being green
in the shoutbox?