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Hi tp fans ;p
Im curious what do you think about new OS from MS - Windows 7? Anyone tested it ? I do... and I must say even in this stage W7 is amazing, this time company from Redmond did a very good job. I tested it on virtual machine with with 1gb set for this system and its "eats" only about 400-500mb RAM with gadgets, paint, games and FF3 ON. When I tested first release of this system i knew, it will be good and ask myself and hope to keep dev it in this way... and im not disappointed.
At end ... ppl hate Vista same as me ... but vista is like dead millenium os... it was fast release and fast forgotten...

I personally have no problem with Vista, it's purely down to end user configuration. It has it's quirks, but then so does all OS's. ME was an entirely different story, but I'm only going by word of mouth, I've never used it. I did, however, hate 98 with it's really annoying lockups. PCs only really become usable tools when XP was released.. it was stable and actually productive.

To be honest, I don't give much of a hoot about the OS, it's a platform for the software I want to use.. As long as it does that well, I don't care for bells and whistles. Vista looks nice, I like the black task bar and with Windows 7 you can arrange the tabs on the task bar, like the tabs in FF, which I find has been lacking since day 1.

I think Win7 is an improved Vista. Only problem I have with MS is that they charge you an arm and a leg, and only give you an updated OS. When are they going to pull their heads out of their butts and actually do it right the first time around? I will try Win7 on one computer at my house. But only because my work is a MS Partner and I will get it cheaper than most people.

Winders suk :P

Hehe I remember somewhere you wrotted about your Mac :P

@IchBinâ„¢
But you remember times when XP came out? People said same things cuz they loved W98 and they will not use XP... and now? Same thing will be in far future when XP will be dead (it is now almost dead) ppl will hate Windows 10 or 2015 or whatever it will be called and they will not want to leave W7... beside... XP can handle only 3gb ram not more, dont supports good 2 or 4 core processors. Its old system for these times.

Quote from: Crip on June 08, 2009, 10:44:19 PM
Winders suk :P

That ol' chestnut?  sheesh, change the record!.. Macs suk and are overrated crApple pretty fashion accessories. I vowed I'd never buy an iPod, I had to relent eventually when my trusty iRiver MP3 player died, with the size of my music collection, and it's a big collection, I needed a high capacity player.

Buying that iPod has been the worst consumer purchase I made.. it randomly crashes, skips tracks halfway through playing for no reason, click back to the start and it will play all the way through. The firmware is rubbish, they've now encrypted the firmware, I was hoping to put Rockbox OS on it.

And I hate iTunes and the fact that the first thing they want from you is credit card details when you register and thats before making a purchase.. Unreal.


I WILL NEVER BUY crApple again.

Quote from: Zetan on June 08, 2009, 10:36:25 PM
I personally have no problem with Vista, it's purely down to end user configuration. It has it's quirks, but then so does all OS's. ME was an entirely different story, but I'm only going by word of mouth, I've never used it. I did, however, hate 98 with it's really annoying lockups. PCs only really become usable tools when XP was released.. it was stable and actually productive.

To be honest, I don't give much of a hoot about the OS, it's a platform for the software I want to use.. As long as it does that well, I don't care for bells and whistles. Vista looks nice, I like the black task bar and with Windows 7 you can arrange the tabs on the task bar, like the tabs in FF, which I find has been lacking since day 1.

I used almost all Windowses (98, ME, 2000, NT, XP,, even i configured W2003 server as a workstation ;p and ofc normal use W2003 server as dhcp, mail, domain and active directory server... Vista and ofc 7).
ME was kinda oh piece of crap... all the time BLUE screen or freezes. Vista is more faster after SP2 that ive heard but honestly didnt tested it a lot. But purpose of releaseing Vista was only that to show for users and try to get frendly with new-futured GUI and manage tools integrated to it (to bad it was and it is payed way to make users frendly to new OS :/)

I am ßeta testing Win7 and you will be pleasantly surprised. it takes the OS up a notch. I am running it right now. I dual boot to Vista, but that is just there actually as a safe guard to be able to boot the system I am running Win7 as my full OS.

Vista SP2 does help Vista alot. Vista SP1 is what Vista should of been when released. SP2 helps it out alot.

Win 2003 is my choice, will probably stay with it to for a long time ahead, At this moment it have been up and not even rebooted for over 30 days and still not even the slightest slow. It just keeps ticking :)
[08:25] * @G6Cad [System UpTime][31days-15hours-14minutes-10seconds]

G6 Win2003 is good, but Win2008 is even better. At one time I was running it as a workstation/desktop OS. There have been several articles written on how to convert it to run as a workstation rather than a server.

Quote from: Zetan on June 08, 2009, 10:55:36 PM

Quote from: Crip on June 08, 2009, 10:44:19 PM
Winders suk :P

That ol' chestnut?  sheesh, change the record!.. Macs suk and are overrated crApple pretty fashion accessories. I vowed I'd never buy an iPod, I had to relent eventually when my trusty iRiver MP3 player died, with the size of my music collection, and it's a big collection, I needed a high capacity player.
Buying that iPod has been the worst consumer purchase I made.. it randomly crashes, skips tracks halfway through playing for no reason, click back to the start and it will play all the way through. The firmware is rubbish, they've now encrypted the firmware, I was hoping to put Rockbox OS on it.
And I hate iTunes and the fact that the first thing they want from you is credit card details when you register and thats before making a purchase.. Unreal.
I WILL NEVER BUY crApple again.

.. change yur own record!!! , i'm not talkin music , tunes Z  ::) --- only the OS performance , stability , "security" & longevity --
......i have had / used both , mac is all around 100.10% superior than any Winders os imo!

I have Windows7 on an X58 machine with 6GB Ram, all in all its an overclocking machine and my 24/7 PC aswell.

I dont really have anything bad at all to say, its quite more stable than Vista, quite faster as well.

It was a major step up from Vista to be honest, and quite nice for now.

Thats over using them for the last 6 Months, from beta version till now, RC1. I wouldn't mind suggesting them to people that are using Vista either, installed them on every other PC i have or built and they are doing well, cant wait for final release.

I dont have win 2008  :P But im happy with 2003 :) Low mem usage and pretty fast for the CPU i have :)

I don't have an opinion on Windows 7 because, when I bought this laptop several years ago with XP Professional, I've never had a need to upgrade it to Vista Business, despite the fact that I've got 2 DVD's sitting in a drawer right beside me, one of which is titled "Upgrade Utility for Windows Vista" and the other one is titled "Microsoft Windows Vista Business Express Upgrade".  The upgrade came with the computer.

When Windows 7 comes out, I may take the week or so that I'm sure it will take to go ahead and do the upgrade to Vista Business and reinstall all my other software, and then, in a couple of years, when whatever comes after Windows 7 comes out, I'll go ahead and take the time to upgrade to Windows 7 in the same fashion.

Trying out Windows 7 is an enticing thought, but I am not someone who immediately upgrades just because I can.  Nobody has really given me a good reason why I should upgrade to Vista yet, let alone Windows 7.  In any case, I'm one of those people who thinks like Ichbin, that just because MS comes out with something new every couple of years, then I should immediately install it, especially giving their pricing schemes.

Anyway, I hope everybody enjoys their Windows 7, but I won't be one of them for quite awhile. ^-^

ZarPrime

I will never install an OS unless I try it first in VirtualBox or something. This way, I don't touch anything on my computers current install. If I don't like it, I just delete the image. If any of you ever wondered how to do this, let me know and I can make a short video tutorial on how to try this stuff out. Its really slick. I've switched my family completely over to Linux this way. If any programs need to run in windows, I have a virtual XP image that I can load up for that.

That sounds like a good thing, Please when you have the time, i would like to know how to do just that :)

Quote from: Renegd98 on June 09, 2009, 11:43:31 AM
G6 Win2003 is good, but Win2008 is even better. At one time I was running it as a workstation/desktop OS. There have been several articles written on how to convert it to run as a workstation rather than a server.

Yea, for example Win XP and 2003 server are based on almost same core... but... Win XP doesnt supports 2 & 4 core processors, supports only 3GB ram (3.25GB exactly for 32bit systems and 4GB for 64bit systems)... W2003S supports 2 & 4 core processors and up to 128GB ram*
(https://www.tinyportal.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgfx.efotek.pl%2Fpokaz_fotke%2Fupload%2F3uyfkowt.JPG&hash=763920bb59cad4e56791f3b00149d4e18cf0934f)

W2003S configured as workstations works more smoth and faster than XP but less support for graphic drivers and sound... Its kinda lot of work to configure it as a workstation but if u did it... no other from Windows versions (beside 2008 server i think) can beat it ... (no including gaming of course)

Quote from: G6 on June 09, 2009, 07:06:38 PM
That sounds like a good thing, Please when you have the time, i would like to know how to do just that :)

You can use Visualization software like Sun's VirtualBox (http://virtualbox.org), its free.

But I like Windows 7, I'm running it as my primary OS on both of my PCs and love it. Will be getting it as soon as it releases.

As with all previous versions of operating systems, I shall lurk in the shadows, since I dread system failures/issues on that scale. Of course, you're somewhat stuck with it in some cases at work...

FWIW, my opinion of Vista is not favorable, as I did not prefer it's assumptive approach to assisting me with my tasks in the interface. I really did not like it solely based on that alone (like driving a car- if you are uncomfortable in the driver's seat, it really doesn't matter how great the other features are if you have to drive 500 miles a day with it!)...

Should be interesting to see how w7 rolls through and tries to regain the ground lost to *nix and Apple; the market is more and more open to alternatives, and Micro$oft had best be adapting to what people want from an OS.

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Nolt said :
... but... Win XP doesnt supports 2 & 4 core processors

Not sure if I am reading you right but XP does support dual core, see my screen shot of my dual cores running under XP.

What you might find is that if you just dropped in a new processor it might still be registered as single core...I'm not an expert on this but see here :

http://www.handaware.com/multiprocessor_XP.html

Anyone got today (depends on where you live) that 13days left to get a proper OS?

Using RC1 and it says that expires in 13 days when it should expire next year.... Yes date is correct :P

I didn't get any notice like that on my version.

Quote from: freddy888 on June 12, 2009, 05:22:51 PM
What you might find is that if you just dropped in a new processor it might still be registered as single core...I'm not an expert on this but see here :

http://www.handaware.com/multiprocessor_XP.html

This is kinda hard to explain, 2core processors works with XP ofc but dont works in that way as they are build in FULL way. Im also not sure is this fixed in XP, why cuz when MS when they build core for XP they didnt even imagine that in future there will be 2core processors :P Look at my screen (sorry for bad painting)(also this problems has older motherboards-in newer this problem is fixed)
You think why you have in XP 2 boxes showing 2core processors and in Vista only one :)
I dont really for sure is this is fixed in SP3 but i dont think so, it wasnt in SP2. Cuz this part is job for core of your system and rebuilding it takes lot of work.

Ahh...I see what you mean.  Thanks for explaining it.

I never got Vista, but will be getting Windows 7 as I liked the Beta version.  When I do that I will probably go quad core - so with W7 quad core will work fully then ?

Cheers :)

Yea, they are ready to support 8core processors.

I'll never install a Microsoft OS on my main pc before SP1 is out. Sometimes not before SP2  ;)

Thinking on win95, win98, win2k and xp. They had to many bugs before SP1 to use it on an pc that you need every day.

I think i'll test win7 on a vm or on another pc

But win7 isn't a new OS. It is like a big SP for Vista

So did anyone buy Windows 7 in the pre-order period ?

I ordered mine for Ã,£80 instead of Ã,£219 that's almost a third of the proper price, so I saved about 60%.

Kind of amazed at how expensive it is really.  They just gobble up those dollars don't they ?

I see now though, that they are increasing the prices.

I haven't seen the prices lately. Where did you see the increase? I'm not too worried, my work is a MS partner so I'll get it cheap either way. :D

IchBin, if you have access to MSDN or Technet it is there already.  I got mine 6 August.

Quote from: freddy888 on August 10, 2009, 06:43:38 PM
So did anyone buy Windows 7 in the pre-order period ?

I ordered mine for Ã,£80 instead of Ã,£219 that's almost a third of the proper price, so I saved about 60%.

Kind of amazed at how expensive it is really.  They just gobble up those dollars don't they ?

I see now though, that they are increasing the prices.

sure I was offered it for Ã,£49, gbp or there abouts

Yeah but which version Les? There are like 10 diff versions now... lol Thats one of the things I hate about Microsoft....

this is part of the email I got

Quote from:  MicrosoftYou've been using WindowsÃ,® 7 for a while now, and we hope you've been enjoying a simpler PC. Because you've been a loyal customer, we're offering you Windows 7 at a great introductory price* - save up to 38% with Windows 7 Home Premium E, only Ã,£49.99 ERP, or save up to 47% with Windows 7 Professional E at Ã,£99.99 ERP. To take advantage of this deal,

IchBin, the price increase I saw was at PC World - last week it was Ã,£90 and now it's at Ã,£179.99.  That's for Professional, which is the one I ordered.  I am just guessing the pre-order period has come to an end elsewhere too.  But if you have friends in the right places...no need to worry.

Windows 7 seems to run better on older machines than Windows Vista eventhough both seems to use also the same resources.