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Title: Entitlement issues
Post by: JPDeni on May 20, 2009, 02:55:40 PM
This morning I read a blog entry (http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html) by author Neil Gaiman about some controversy surrounding another author George R. R. Martin. Martin is a fantasy author who is in the midst of a series of books. (I've not read this particular series, but I've read other books by Martin, which I really liked.) He had given a date when the next book in the series would be available and that date has passed. A group of his vocal fans are rather annoyed about the fact that they've seen him (gasp!) attending conventions and possibly even writing some other things when he ought to be writing the book they want to read, damn it!   :tickedoff: I thought Gaiman's response was very good and may be applicable to other circumstances as well.
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: ZarPrime on May 20, 2009, 03:24:33 PM
Definitely quite a good read, and quite appropriate to other situations that are very near and dear to our hearts.

JDP, Nice find. :up:

ZarPrime
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: G6Cad on May 20, 2009, 03:32:59 PM
Everyone here should read this, might give you another insight in not only work, but the life outside to  :up:

VERY good post Deni, thanks for charing this with us  :D
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Ianedres on May 20, 2009, 04:52:57 PM
Technology has brought us to remove the element of timing and patience from almost everything in our daily lives; if we can not check the status of something via email, Twitter, cellphone, or a tray icon, we begin the process of concern and frustration at a very early point.

It seems ironic that maintaining the status updates to any degree of truth or accuracy can be as time-consuming as the developmental project itself; therein lies the rub.

As with innovative writing, most free software is written upon inspiration and completion comes secondary. But that is what makes a novel "great" versus "pretty good". Often, books or movies require sequels to tidy up the unanswered questions.

Would you rather have something quick that works 'most of the time' or something that is dynamic enough to work for everyone- as time saved on a quick project will most likely result in extra time to debug problems.

Personally, I write code much better without the pressure or a deadline, and would rather establish the reputation of providing a solid project without the long list of major problems attached to each release.
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Ken. on May 20, 2009, 05:09:12 PM
I want mine.

I want mine... Yesterday!

It IS mine.

Or, how about this... Too much is NOT enough!

We as individuals and we as a people sometimes just need to get over ourselves.
We as a 'person' are not the center of the universe.

Except for me of course.   ;)
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Ianedres on May 20, 2009, 05:19:38 PM
I was just Twitter'ing about all this when my cellphone beeped (that new ringtone you sent me on Myspace is killer BTW) telling me that I had an email, so I loaded it up, and saw that it was a reply notification about your reply here, so I replied back to let you know I saw this. Back to Twitter now to let everyone know what I just said now.

I'll call you later to talk about all this after I get through this traffic jam.

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Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: IchBin on May 20, 2009, 05:20:45 PM
lmao
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Ianedres on May 20, 2009, 05:45:37 PM
In coming years, there will exist an entire generation of non-speaking humans, all having grossly enlarged thumbs and downward-looking necks; they will ultimately become extinct, most likely due to colliding with fixed objects while mobile and not being able to communicate without an extraneous device to procure the essential necessities of life itself.

Sometimes, technology just makes some people more stoopid. - Tim Antley (2009)

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Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: GhostRider2110 on May 20, 2009, 08:23:40 PM
To quote a famous group:

" I want it all, and I want it now!"

That is what I see of much of the teen's and young adults. I have to say I am somewhat guilty of it as well.  In my hobby of Scale R/C, if I need parts, it is much eaiser for me to hop online and order something to be delivered to my door, with free 2 day shipping then to drive down to the one local hobby shop and put is on order there... I make every effort to support the local guys, but sometimes I just want it faster, and technology enables me to do that... Not exactly along the lines of this thread, but closely related.   

--Mitch
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Ken. on May 20, 2009, 09:21:59 PM
Sometimes this stuff is just amazing!

My wife has the 'Oprah' show on just now and they are talking about a similar topic... in one family that they are interviewing this is happening:
The Mom is in her bedroom, working on her PC and she wants a glass of water.
Her Daughter is in another bedroom, texting with her friends on her cell phone and can't hear her mother.
Solution? The Mom sends a text to the Daughter in the other room asking for a glass of water.

Maybe it's just me, but that just sounds dumb.
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: GhostRider2110 on May 20, 2009, 09:32:30 PM
Sad but true... and (hangs head in shame)  I am guilty of that as well.. Not to get me something, but if already in bed for the evening, having one of the older kids still up, down in the basement make sure the laundry is switched over from the washer to dryer... ( and started, cause for some reason a teenager does not seem to get the correlation between putting the wet clothes IN the dryer and turning it ON...) send them a text or call their cell phone.

--Mitch
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Crip on May 20, 2009, 09:36:35 PM
 ..... well I can't read or write so their. ;)
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Ken. on May 20, 2009, 09:46:45 PM
You're entitled Jeff. :up:

The rest of us need to get a grip.  ???
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: JPDeni on May 20, 2009, 10:17:00 PM
My husband and I have been known to IM each other from our laptops while sitting in the same room, not six feet away from each other. It's silly adolescent stuff, though, that we're having fun with. :)
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Crip on May 20, 2009, 10:39:11 PM
..
Sounds like that commercial of this guy & girl talking on cells in the same room
and the girl is talking to his butt then he sits up a little and sits back down and
tells her 'my butt just hang up on you.. :)

...saw that one?
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: JPDeni on May 20, 2009, 10:51:27 PM
Yes, I have seen that one. :)
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: Lesmond on May 20, 2009, 10:58:57 PM
lol me and my wife IM each other sitting just 2 foot from each other lol :o
Title: Re: Entitlement issues
Post by: IchBin on May 21, 2009, 03:15:49 PM
haha, yep I do the same. I usually say something dumb like, "Hey, what you wearing?". :D