TinyPortal has been around for quite some time now and we added quite a few things to it over the versions to make it a useful portal solution for SMF.
But if it were to top all other portals - what would TP need? :)
i do want TP to act like asocial network script i dream about
guops module like those in social websites
advanced profile
so many built in blocks makes me able to have areal social network
seo friendly ulrs
ajax chat modules
blog module
with facebook down bar
co-opration with smf-media team
and it will be tinyportosocial for smf hehheeh :)
......................sometimes dreams come true
ok lets talk about what could be possible
i hope to finde acheck mark (https://www.tinyportal.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdc01.arabsh.com%2Fi%2F00063%2Fgvr5y6xmnu7r.JPG&hash=488852529fa06a549575d946360704868f563862) that enables me to show all recent topix on the front page not only 5 board topix could be shown i mean the whole forum topix from all boards appears on the front page
i hope i can hide the tp version in the next release just want it ro say iam using TP not the version number
It's need to be standalone portal.
Blocks to show on specific theme(s)... need one more coffee to think of something else :P
Well some sort of automated block system, like having XML files for blocks which can be uploaded on TP.net and an user can get it directly from his or her TP interface. As well as having the ability for blocks to take user inputs.
Quote from: flash_os on April 04, 2009, 11:44:32 AM
It's need to be standalone portal.
Not ever will that be made with TP, or atleast i hope it doesent go that route, TP is for SMF and not any other forum script out there, we are a small team but qa very well working team and a standalone portal will make everything messed up everywhere,
Im fine with whats built in allready, but more open for modules now, TP is TINY portal, if you add in more features in the base script, it will become gigantic, and loose everything it stands for, so i will have to go for modules and not more premade included inside tp.
form manager - create and manage forms
url manager - create short urls for internal and external pages (domain.com/customtext)
link manager - it can be like download manager but its for external file sources.
different css edition for each block frame.
dictionary module - it is not as same as glossary. it is like http://thedict.net.
these are what i want to see in tp.
and i realy like dragooon's idea.
If I were designing TP, I would take out all block types except for php, html and bbc and then make all the rest of the block types available to install. That would make it a whole lot easier for people to tweak things to their own liking, rather than having to find the code in the Sources file. Also, it would make the whole package "tinier" for people who would never use the vast majority of the built-in block types. With the new function to import block codes (which I haven't yet looked into enough), it would be easy for people to install the codes even if they're a bit "challenged" in the area of coding and those with more coding ability would be able to tweak to their heart's content.
Here on TP.net, we could have sections of code that were for similar purposes, such as WoW or social networking or whatever else people could think of. Maybe even have whole packages consisting of modules and blocks that could be installed all at once.
I'm probably the only one who would think this is a good idea, though. :)
One thing that would be fantastic would be the ability to add a link to the title of blocks, so that every block could have a clickable title, like the User block does now. It seems small, but there have been a number of times I've wished for it and others have asked about it as well.
Its hard to improve on perfection!!
I agree with the forms suggestion, its something that a lot of people need on site. I particularly loved the review module and am totally bummed that it is no longer supported cause I upgraded specifically to have that!
Don't know what's possible but I like the idea of the blocks being more free flowing rather than just left, right, centre etc... would be nice if you could have a left/right block switched on in forum view but not on frontpage (while still having something in that same block on the frontpage), have always wanted to have something down the side of my forum with advertising banners and stuff but dont want it on the frontpage. (maybe that is possible, havent had too much time to test out all the new features since upgrading)
But yeah just a bit of feedback for you, like I said it is already great, so I wouldn't be changing it too much! But I look forward to seeing what you come up with in the future! :)
I like the ideas from Dragoon and JPDenni (no, you aren't the only one who likes it, LOL).
bbTurk's ideas would be great for modules.
If possible i'd like old=type tp_0.98 ShoutBox! , also possibly a personal Blog of some-sort -- no Felblog type stuff but TPStylish ----
-- agreed with Bec , it's already Great as is , so I don't think we need much more than we do .. just my -2Ã,¢ .. :P
TP Rules Baby!
An easiest way to move from 0.9.8 to 1.
I will not upgrade to the latest version because TP holds the main data of my sites and I dont think that I want to risk loosing it.
It seems that even there are some benefits after upgrading to 1.0.5, the way of doing it, simply destroys the pleasure of the new version...
It is like two different portals...
No easy way to move from one to another...
I think adding more and more will make this awesome software bloated...
maybe making individual modules like you have set up would be great
In the way of modules I think these ppl would love
- TP Gallery (Pics, vids, etc...)
- TP Blog (everyone loves to write bout them self lol)
- 3D TP (I am going out on a limb here...)
I had another idear yesterday, maybe while I work on my site it will come back to me
Quote from: dimdom on April 04, 2009, 06:08:57 PM
An easiest way to move from 0.9.8 to 1.
I will not upgrade to the latest version because TP holds the main data of my sites and I dont think that I want to risk loosing it.
It seems that even there are some benefits after upgrading to 1.0.5, the way of doing it, simply destroys the pleasure of the new version...
It is like two different portals...
No easy way to move from one to another...
I don't know how more easier it can be than the current ones, all you got to do is uninstall and install the newer version. Back up the data if you are afraid to loose it.
Honestly I would LOVE to see a nice photo gallery addition to it...
I hate using coppermine and the other one I really like is expensive. I also don't know if I'll ever update to the 2.0 series of SMF because of all the time I'll have to put into making it what I have now so I'm kinda stuck anyway... LOL
As an idea, you could release separate versions of it just so it remains 'tiny' depending on the needs of a site. For example, a gaming site would, in addition to needing forums (SMF), would need a page creator (in rich text and one for straight up coding), game server query and team speak query built into it, along with a shout box, chat room, etc. It's been a couple of years since I've been involved in gaming so I don't remember a whole lot of the needs of a gaming clan.
Renegd98 Edit: Josh I am sorry but during my reply somehow part of your message was deleted...
an easy upgrade from the present version.... 0.9.8
that won't break the forum
Quote from: JOSHSKORN on April 04, 2009, 10:52:04 PM
As an idea, you could release separate versions of it just so it remains 'tiny' depending on the needs of a site. For example, a gaming site would, in addition to needing forums (SMF), would need a page creator (in rich text and one for straight up coding), game server query and team speak query built into it, along with a shout box, chat room, etc. It's been a couple of years since I've been involved in gaming so I don't remember a whole lot of the needs of a gaming clan.
Renegd98 Edit: Josh I am sorry but during my reply somehow part of your message was deleted...
You do realize that game server query and Team speak server queries rely solely on your host allowing the ports for those queries to be open don't you? So if TP added something like that (which do already exist in coding snippets) that if the port is closed by your host then users will come here asking why TP don't work, when TP has nothing to do with the ports being open.
If different version were made then the Tiny part of Tinyportal becomes meaningless. TP is expandable and is almost only limited by your imagination.
As far as a page creator the new editor in the latest Beta version allows for you to create pages with wysiwyg, as the other editors have. I admit is does not hold your hand but seperate php,html editors already exist that allow cut & paste. It already has a shoutbox, and chat rooms are so server intensive and use lots of server resources and also available already thru other means.
Quote from: Wonga on April 05, 2009, 12:06:56 AM
an easy upgrade from the present version.... 0.9.8
that won't break the forum
Wonga, pretty easy to upgrade now....
backup database, uninstall 0.9.8, install TP 1.0 Beta 3 and the new database items will be added and the ones that exist will not be manipulated at all. Remember step 1, Backup, backup.
To make some of the most popular snippets into built in blocks that you only need add and activate. The gallery block that shows random pictures, the arcade block showing random scores and games. Users online block with more info on visitors than what is standard with SMF. :)
It needs a check box that when checked the post appears on the front page no matter what section of the forum it's in.
As a freelance part time programmer myself I know exactly what you guys are going through and don't let all the negativity get you down.
Some of these spoiled brats on the internet want what they want, yesterday, and if you cant provide that then you must be the incompetent. To them I say "bulltish". If you can find something better, then go use it or program it yourself and shut the hell up. There's a big difference between a request or constructive criticism and outright berating and degrading the people that are trying to help you.
Most of the time they end up wasting their precious time that they could be putting to towards writing code, trying to defend themselves against your sophomoric diatribes. :knuppel2:
Then there's just some of the outrageous requests some people have. Even large mods like Tiny Portal are just one of many tools you have to help make your version of SMF better. Its not the only or end all be all mod for SMF and to quote a friend of mine, that also happens to work on one of the other portals, "There is a limit to what you can/should do with general modifications". Don't cry because you didn't get the sun but be grateful that you were at least given the moon.
Tiny Portal is a great tool as is and while sure there are some bugs that could be fixed and some new features that could be added but how much of it is really necessary? There are other mods that already do some of this stuff well without having to complicate this one further by making more code that bloats or at the least creates more chances for errors.
Personally I would like to see the gallery finished. What we have seen of it on here in the past looks so much better then some of the other gallery tools Ive seen out there. I don't know what the back end is for you guys but the front end has been amazing.
I too prefer the old shoutbox module but Ive never really been a fan of them anyway. so I can live with or without it. :D
Lastly Id like to see this ported to SMF 2.x I love many of the changes that have been made in 2.x but as Ive stated here before TP is worth waiting for and Ill stick with the 1.1x series of SMF till TP is ready to use it.
Hmmm....
TP works fine for me... And has been working fine for some time.. Errr... Almost 4 years to be exact...
Anyway... A gallery would be sweet.... :laugh:
garou,
Appreciate the kind words. IMHO, many of the changes being done in the current version and the reason for Bloc asking users what they would like to see in the future are being applied to the Alpha version of TP for 2.0 that is currently under development in parallel to 1.x. As we move forward, it is the goal to make the migration to TP 2.x as painless as possible once it is ready for a stable release.
ZarPrime
I splitted out the posts that are about bugs and development cycles, I feel we should separate the two. They are both important issues on improving TP, but its not fair to people wanting to discuss feature ideas primary.
http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php/topic,29143.0.html
Well said garou. The people that complain are the ones that don't realise just how much hard work it is to create something like this and who want everything handed to them on a silver platter. There are so many other people out there that would charge a fortune for something like TP and would not offer any support for it!! When you look at this website and the people on it, its a huge credit to TP.
Now I am slowly but surely getting into coding myself I can understand and appreciate exactly how much goes into it and it kinda blows my mind. But its a great inspiration for the rest of us to get into it and start doing things ourselves!
Ill get off my high horse now! :P
Well... TP is awsome :D But if you ask....
* more flexibility about how the order of the blocks.. see this topic (http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?action=bugtracker;sa=bug394)
* More features of styling a block. So the block background color or image.
The titel color and linking the titel URL Now.. everytime i want that i have to download the tp-style.css doc and alter it...
* There are many blockcodes that are submitted by users. Some users who submits them, alters every time the first post as soon as something is changed at the code. Some however don't. Sometimes a topic is 40+ pages long... and for a user who want to use the code.. it takes a lot of time to read all those posts... So is it possible to have a rule that all the changes made at the code, that it has to be put in the openingpost?
Also sometimes members make several editions of a code... Is it possible for them to open a nother topic or something, putting in there the altered code? But... explaining that the first setup (the copyright) was from someone else with a link to the original code?
* Have more ways how a prefixed block is shown. Like the userblock.. i liked the version of 0.9.8 better. But now.. i have to "deal" with it.. since i do not know how to alter that...
* Now you can set a prefixed hight for a panel group.. i would like to have that per block.
* As mentioned.. when i want a set hight.. a different background color ect. I always have to alter the TP-style.css... Is it possible to have a textfield / codefield (like in the Ultimate Profile mod, where you can put in css to alter the layouts looks) where you edit the block... There you can put in css code, so that that overwrites the normal codes. In this way i do not have to alter the tp-style.css
* oke.. maybe i am going over the top here :D But i have blocks for different membergroups.. guest see different blocks then members.. However.. i as an admin.. i see all. Now i can ofcourse shrink a block.. but i see it always... Can a option be added to show a certain block not to a admin? So i do not see all the blocks?
This was it :D
i want rssbox to be more compatible with other language sets and article dates should be editable. dates and rss block is big issue for international sites :( .
and rssbox can be more customizable like as shoutbox.
moreover article can be download as a pdf version.
Quote from: bbTURK on April 05, 2009, 05:05:11 PM
article dates should be editable
They are unless you mean something else
Quote from: bbTURK on April 05, 2009, 05:05:11 PM
moreover article can be download as a pdf version.
Good Idea :P
I would like to see much better documentation for developers.
Including:
All of the functions documented with what files to be included for each one.
What global variables are available with their contents.
The CSS classes documented.
Some examples on how to do some pretty common tasks. Like make a tutorial on making a mod that includes an install/uninstall file, read/write to the DB, add an admin page etc. So that all mods did it correctly and the same way.
I have written 4 or 5 mods for TP and I always end up just digging through the source trying to figure out how to do stuff. Then I end up wondering if the way I am doing it is the best choice. In fact, I have done things on one mod, then while making another mod I stumble across a function or variable that makes something I did in the past tons easier. Wishing I had known about it before.
http://ciddiyizbiz.biz/mansete.html
or another system
http://ciddiyizbiz.biz/manset.html
this pages are manuel in our site. We can't use this system our sites now. Because it's not automatic feed.
Ã,,°f Tiny has got this system script , automatic feed categories. This is vey good.
My english is not good. I hope you can understand me.
by by.
There's still a number of these issues that are not about what might go into TP itself, but rather about the support for TP. While they are valid points to make, they would be better made in the topic that Bloc created for that discussion.
Things like
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There are many blockcodes that are submitted by users....
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I would like to see much better documentation for developers.
are not features of TP as a mod, but rather are support issues.
I still want to see a fan club features in tp,
http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php/topic,20439.0.html
members can join and create their own clubs related to the article category and articles. ^_^
Hi! :)
I would like to see in new TP:
- Links Manager
- Form Manager (like form manager for Jomla! or so..)
- Realy Gallery Manager for TP / (..or maby photo-upload block?)
- Better wysiwyg editor for edition css from them, with the buttons like BBC-Box.
- Realy Auto Updater for TP, (like smf in PA)
- DB Tools, for recover DB, not only for Export DB, but for Iport to, (so like in Nucleus..)
- And.. litle more Ajax please..
- Better SBox, or Chat, (like AjaxChat)
- Better Documentation in to The TP Admin
- And Future for the Super Idea - Layers!
- And attention.. meny meny more hehe :D
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Regards Friends :)
roco
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I would like the Adminpanel to contain a bit more things. Custom buttons with possibility for adding a icon to it, should show in adminpanel as fields, would also be greate if i could center the main menu from here as well. I would also like it if you could activate more snippets and modules from adminpanel. I also support the idea of making it possible to hide blocks from admins. Ive noticed that TP has to much login / register fields and i would like it very much if that was taken away from header part so banner always gets clean.
Kim, most of the items you have mentioned are theme related and have little to do with TinyPortal itself. Additional snippets are planned.. in so far as, there are the options for them waiting to be fully implemented. It's a lengthy process for the coding team to sort out the best snippets and then have them as options. There are so many variations of the snippets posted here and by so many different authors.
I'm not sure what you mean by:
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Ive noticed that TP has to much login / register fields and i would like it very much if that was taken away from header part so banner always gets clean.
SMF has login fields, TP has a User block which features Register / Login.. Custom themes may have their own fields and I think you are refering to what details have been added in a Custom theme.
Hiding blocks from Admin is possible, but not a feature by default. If you do a search, you should find some topics / posts relating to it.
@ JPDeni.. you mean i should put that issue in this (http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php/topic,29143.0.html) topic?
@ Roco.. Realy Gallery Manager for TP -> there is are great SMF mods for that feature. However.. if you have Ultimate Profile, then a blockcode snippit is available here in TP to upload a photo from a block..
About the shoutbox.. i adored the advanced shoutbox...(the whisper mode ;) ) so if possible.. i hope that that feature is going to be worked out again.
I also agree on the bugs issue... it is great if there is a known bug and a quick fix, that you see it in the admin an can install it thru a link in the admin. That would be great.
Users ability to upload a thumbnail for their download.
Searchable Downloads
built in permission for View/Download separate for all groups.
Quote@ JPDeni.. you mean i should put that issue in this topic?
Yes, that would be fine. I was going to respond to what you said, but I didn't want to take this discussion away from what Bloc intended it to be.
oke.. i will do that :D
Quote from: MissyNL on April 06, 2009, 10:02:39 AM
I also agree on the bugs issue... it is great if there is a known bug and a quick fix, that you see it in the admin an can install it thru a link in the admin. That would be great.
You mean like smaller update patches rather than full upgrades?
Yes Bloc, I would not mind seeing that. Smaller update patches also addressing one or two bugs/issues might be better in the long run. Its like my view on updating my Linux boxes. I would rather install a few patches, make sure things still work then continue. There are pluses and minuses to that approach as well. More work keeping up from your end. But I think there might be a happy medium to get quicker patches out to the users esp for possible major issues. Just my $.02 :)
--Mitch
that would be a neat add on...kinda like the one that smf does with the security patches
I was just reminded by Ken of a feature that has always bugged me about TP, possibly the only thing. LOL
Whenever you create an article category block, you cannot see who actually created the article in the block if it is not the site admin. It will always show the site admin as the creator of the article. It should show whoever created the article instead.
To add further to Skhilled's feature request about articles:
It would be good if a site admin had the option to easily change 'ownership' on TP articles.
Many times I have found myself posting articles that should really be 'owned' by one of my members because the article content was actually produced/created by the member.
Here's a case in point; Old Tip (http://www.ourfamilyforum.org/FamilyForum/index.php?page=Old_Tip)
None of the content on the page is mine, yet it shows me as the author and while that's technically correct, imho it would be much better for the person who actually produced the content to be listed as the author of the article.
Exactly. :)
Quote from: Bloc on April 06, 2009, 07:53:33 PM
Quote from: MissyNL on April 06, 2009, 10:02:39 AM
I also agree on the bugs issue... it is great if there is a known bug and a quick fix, that you see it in the admin an can install it thru a link in the admin. That would be great.
You mean like smaller update patches rather than full upgrades?
Yes... that would be great :D but... maybe it is going to be unorganized.. because if you have a have all those patches, then it is maybe hard for you.. because you have to make several versions and the user has to look carefully what he has installed.
But.. maybe you can do it like SMF arcade.. see in the admin which version you have, which version there is and can upgrade within the admin.
I like the idea of small updates; might be interesting to implement the fixes (should just go through the XML as any other) and could keep the waiting period down somewhat.
Variables and other TP-specific items could use detailed documenting... :coolsmiley:
Some good stuff here, let's keep it coming!
I'd like to see TP reach out and take me by the hand. Before it does that however, I'd like to see it make me a nice double cheese burger with some chili fries. After that, I'd like to see TP break out the painting tools and finish painting my basement. And last but not least, I'm hoping it can help me with this rash that I've broke out in. Bloc, can you put all of these things in the next version? AND!, can you have it done by the weekend? ::) :P
</sarcasm>
Sure! lol :)
Seriously, some great suggestions have come forth here already, many of which are very doable.
I agree. Definitely worth talking about. I hope you didn't take that as I was complaining about the suggestions. lol I just wanted to add my own to the list. :P
I'd like to see some more options on the RSS feed box. I think this can be a very useful block. I think it needs the option to display things like title, body, images. Option to show a certain number of news items. Would be even nicer if you could apply some style to it too. :D
Yup, I like to expand the RSS block, its rather useful.
Would be a good idea to have the specific RSS type in articles aswell?
I dont really know how many use articles for their RSS feeds but i for me at least and having many RSS articles its better.
Tho i can use an empty article and put the RSS block to only show in that article.. hmm
Quote from: Bloc on April 09, 2009, 04:27:30 PM
Yup, I like to expand the RSS block, its rather useful.
An rss module to control multiple RSS feeds. Making it possible to mix feeds with recent items from each feed. That would be pretty cool.
I have an 89" wingspan A-36 I am building.. think TP can help with that???? PLEASE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA... Thanks for taking the time Bloc to care what we think might help make TP better... --Mitch
:) its what makes it grow - taking in suggestions and improvements.
Article System:
Another nice feature would be for a member to have the option of selecting an existing category for their article when it is submitted. (the admin could always move the article if the member placed it in the wrong category.)
Yes.. that would be a nice option :D, but only by permission.
Lots of good ideas here, I'll summarize some in another topic.
One thing I just remembered that I would love to see -- and I'm not sure if someone mentioned it already -- is a section in the general TP settings in admin for the default settings for articles. I, for one, will never use the author info/avatar thing, nor the social networking things, nor ratings, nor comments, nor several other things that some folks use. I would like to be able to set something once so that I don't have to either change it every time I write an article, other than having to edit the source code itself.
And then I would like to be able to "hide" that section in the article definition similar to hiding the bottom part of the block definition so that I don't have to scroll so far down every time I make an edit to a php article.
Hmmm. I keep coming up with things. ;) Would it be possible to eliminate the "intro text" field if the "use intro text" radio button is set to "No"?
Yes, especially if general options are there. It could be simply hidden and only appear if you select "use introtext", though javascript like SMF does it in a couple of places.
The idea of hiding things also sounds great..though upshrinking seem the best route, to quickly change the default option.
I've wished for a way to save settings as well. That would be a great asset. :)
EDIT: Not sure if this has been mentioned before...
How about a way to order articles, categories and downloads similar to how blocks can be ordered?
A feature that I think would be neat to see in TP (or even a module) is a static footer that scrolls with the page, kinda like Facebook...
In this there could be (guess its drop up) menu where links to the site can be added, and other features like buddies online and such
Thats possible in a theme, at least when static items are showed. If you are thinking ajax to fetch stuff, like FB does, then yes, that would be interesting as a module. :)
exactly, using ajax to update without the need to refresh...
Couldn't this also be accomplished using CSS?
Yes, the static placement would be CSS of course. But not fetching new data, only making it show like you want.
ah...yes I see you would have to add it to the index.template.php in order to show as a footer and updating data
Thanks for all suggestions. :) I collected many of them into this topic:
http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php/topic,29475.0.html
can we add one more idea :D
maybe it is good idea that there are two more frontpage lyout type. one of them has four rows and the other has three rows
[E]
123
456
[F]
1234
5678
or if it is possible, only one more type which has custom column number is enough.
Quote from: bbTURK on May 04, 2009, 08:32:42 PM
can we add one more idea :D
maybe it is good idea that there are two more frontpage lyout type. one of them has four rows and the other has three rows
[E]
123
456
[F]
1234
5678
or if it is possible, only one more type which has custom column number is enough.
Isn't that just the same as choosing for the option : show blocks in 3 or 4 columns? If you have enough material you can fill in 2 rows...
I have one to add :
* Showing the id number of the block in front of all the settings in the block index. This saves me time when i want to alter a a block in the stylesheet, that i always have to go to my frontpage to see the ID number. And if i have choosen, show without title bar, i first have to enable, then see it on frontpage...
If you hover your mouse over one of the items to click on a block you can see the id of the block. :)
Quote from: MissyNL on May 04, 2009, 09:19:13 PM
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Isn't that just the same as choosing for the option : show blocks in 3 or 4 columns? If you have enough material you can fill in 2 rows...
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yes, actualy i want same thing but i wanna use articles and forum posts.
Quote from: IchBinâ„¢ on May 04, 2009, 09:25:59 PM
If you hover your mouse over one of the items to click on a block you can see the id of the block. :)
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Quote from: bbTURK on May 04, 2009, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: MissyNL on May 04, 2009, 09:19:13 PM
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Isn't that just the same as choosing for the option : show blocks in 3 or 4 columns? If you have enough material you can fill in 2 rows...
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yes, actualy i want same thing but i wanna use articles and forum posts.
well.. there probably a lot of snippets that you can use for that...
TP Video Module
features;
1. Category support
2. add blocks for each category to front page( x category for the latest videos)
3. Demo images of videos must shown in blocks
Video Adding options;
1. Video File Upload
2. Video embed code
sorry for my english ;D
Dreaming I know but....
I would like a drag and drop block manager in Admin. Drag and drop blocks where you want them to be also the possibility of having a few different block contents which show up randomly on refresh.
Gerry
Quote from: pheasant_plucker on May 06, 2009, 07:04:42 PM
Dreaming I know but....
I would like a drag and drop block manager in Admin. Drag and drop blocks where you want them to be also the possibility of having a few different block contents which show up randomly on refresh.
Gerry
Drag and drop into a grid-based layout..or just same as now, but across panels?
Quote from: Bloc on May 07, 2009, 08:05:57 AMDrag and drop into a grid-based layout..or just same as now, but across panels?
Tried to play around with something like this... javascript drives me crazy! But I wanted to try an interface like this...
I think a grid-based approach would be interesting..just drag your block into the grid and be done with it. To do that require blocks to have fixed grid positions though, which they don't have now.
Mootools have some code for dragging etc.
Yes Grid based would be great. At least you could change the layout at will and design the page in one shot.
Gerry
Ohhh and some additional panel selection would be really useful:; For example, Have some tabs above the left panel and whichever tab you select switches it to a new set of content.
Gerry
If a Grid based system is ever enabled put in, I think it would be nice to have a "standard mode" for people who just want TP to do basically what it does now, and and an "advanced mode" for stuff like moving blocks around in a grid.
ZarPrime
I agree ZarPrime. The grid-based system would be terrible for users (like me) who have several blocks that are of varying height -- php blocks where the content is not known ahead of time. Like Bloc suggested, it would only work if the blocks were of predetermined height.
I would want the following:
-Blogs
--Member Pages (Where a member can have his or her own page)
---Advanced Downloads Module (Get rid of errors)
----Advanced Chat (Make the Shout Box a Chat Module and Shout Module)
-----Pages (Have the ability to make pages instead of making them from articles)
------Wiki
-------Music Gallery
--------Video Gallery
---------Image Gallery
----------Fix Block Codes (The Block Codes item is not functioning right, it doesnt pick up the latest blocks)
Thanks, please accept my ideas.
hmmm most of your requests already have SMF mods that work perfectly fine for those purposes
and you dont explain Fix Block Codes...
(If your meaning the one that is exclusive to TinyPortal for the block code snippets, that isn't the purpose of this thread as this thread is for the development of TinyPortal the mod, not TinyPortal the site)
I certainly see that both blog and gallery mods already exists for SMF, so my reasons for making those would rather be to make them directed towards TP in every way. Probably won't be as elaborate as those others, but lighter.
In any case, I am still keen on these ideas, especially for modules, but I also like to get TP 1 and 2(for SMF2) stable, so this beta will be the last adding new features(which will be few). Changes in TPadmin are very desirable, so that i will work on.
blizz-craft,
I am puzzled by "pages, but not from articles"? What does it mean?
think he means adding extra pages as non-basis of an article so it should this way i think
index.php?action=page;id=1 for a normal page maybe with you can include standard html
index.php?action=article;id=1 as an article as a normal article should be written
"pages, but not from articles"
There are already a couple of SMF Mods available that will do just that.
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1477
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1347
Ah, simpler "articles" without all the extras articles have?
I do have one special idea that I am not sure when will be started upon, but it involves a "custom build page" module, where you define the fields yourself. From that I suspect it would be easy to construct simpler pages, with just one textfield and title for example.
on the aspect of Modules, it would be sweet to have kinda a members pages...Kinda like a Twitter/Facebook where individuals could post up what they are doing, or recent activities...and keep a log of them by date and time
I dont know how hard it would be, but on the member's page it would also show from their buddy list what their buddies are doing
(if that is what blizz-craft was talking about, that would be a nice addon)
Been reading up on this topic, and cant help my self thinking..
Why try and why want to have ALL things found on the net in TP ?
Facebook have what face book have, Twitter have what twitter have, with all these things you want to have for TP it will not be as tiny and not even close to light eather.
Im not complaining at all, just thought why on earth you want to have everything inside TP when everything allready are on the net ?
I can understand the thinking of *showing* and *import small notes* from various sites out there. But include things like Twitter and Facebook inside TP are more or less nothing I personally want to see happen.
Personally I would like to see easier administration in TP, light weight options of articles, downloads, blocks etc.
EASY is the word i want to have on my mind when i think of tp. It is getting complext for every release with moe and more features ( good ones i have to add ) but would like to see lighter usage of the same functions in the base package of TP, and then have the modules hold the bigger options and layouts.
Kind of a light weight TP package and one heavy with everything.
Hard to explain but i hope i explained it pretty good though :-\
I'm with G6.
I like the idea of a basic TP, then add whatever functionality you want through modules.
All I use TP for just now, is pretty much to provide a frontpage for several sites, with the blocks/header used to provide a consistent layout between the forum, and static pages.
I'd much rather have a basic and simple package that does what I want it to and add on the extra bits I need, rather than a comprehensive and complex package which does things I don't need it to, and takes forever to configure to how I want it (I also maintain a vB site, and there are settings/features that I've got no idea what they do, and when things go wrong, it seems to take me forever to figure out why).
modules though are just a modification added to TP, not in the basic TP install
Quote from: Lord Anubis on June 16, 2009, 06:33:54 PM
on the aspect of Modules, it would be sweet to have kinda a members pages...Kinda like a Twitter/Facebook where individuals could post up what they are doing, or recent activities...and keep a log of them by date and time
I dont know how hard it would be, but on the member's page it would also show from their buddy list what their buddies are doing
(if that is what blizz-craft was talking about, that would be a nice addon)
That was what I was talking about!!! Finally someone understands!
While TP never can be Facebook/Twitter/[insert site here] the FUNCTIONS of those sites: updating what happens, membergroup interaction and generally bringing togheter the site, is a good option for a module. All it takes is logging the events and constructing a way/interface to show and administrate it.
On the other hand, interacting with said services, like Wordpress do through its plugins, is quite another thing - already some bookmarking are in TP, expanding on that isn't so far-fetched, they are rudimentary atm.
But again, TP can never BE Facebook/Twitter/etc...TP core itself is already complex enough, in fact, my goal is to keep the power, but lessen the complex interface so the workflow is quicker. Modules will provide what you need of extras.
some interesting reading here regarding facebook integration http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=311025.0
I found that topic a bit confusing :P ...but in any case, TP is ideal for the sort of micro-logging and interacting a social network function implies, SMF less so as a mod would need to support many other mods. Otherwise its *just* the SMF internal functions that benefit from it.
IMO TP would only support SMF and TP functions, and therefore be much more closed - and easier to actually implement. If Nao ever get started on a SMF mod, he would forever be expanding it, as many wants "their" mod to also plugin into it(also from the fact someone is paying him to actually write it :P )
Though he could write a system of letting mods hook onto it, but IMHO that would possibly lead to unforeseen usage. It would have to be pretty efficient to not destroy SMF optimised speed. Just look at some people installing up to 30-40 mods, many of which overlap. You CAN easily run SMF and also TP to the ground by adding and adding stuff endlessly.
The only other thing I can think of would be forms, maybe? Kind of similar to articles but would probably need too many things to be considered...
I would rather see microblogging through SMF + TP rather than hitching a ride with FaceBook and the others
just kinda a page for members to say something (or in most cases they type but its about nothing :P )
I think this would put less strain trying to gather data from 3rd party sites etc...
Just an idea :)
Oh BTW there is now a mod for a footerbar (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1881) although its in its infancy atm, I am sure this will evolve :)
Could we make TP Similar to the most popular Forum Portal?
Its called MKPortal
It supports the following:
SMF
VBulletin
AEF
PHPbb
MYbb
etc...
Im not saying that we should support those forums, but the portal has great features...
TP will and always have gone it's own way
I dont understand, well MKPortal is a Portal, not used in the VIA Package Manager, but it has 18 awards...
Best Portal System 2008
Best Portal System 2007
Worlds Best CMS Portal for Forums
Wordpress Approved
etc... We could beat that if we add the Items that I listed earlier.
i'd like to see the frontpage settings be applied to normal pages in TP1.0. like how you can set certain topics to be displayed in frontpage with avatars. i would like that settings be applied to pages as well... i sort of want to create a page which would display a certain board's posts and the avatar of the topic starter just like in the frontpage settings.
Quote from: blizz-craft on June 18, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
I dont understand, well MKPortal is a Portal, not used in the VIA Package Manager, but it has 18 awards...
Best Portal System 2008
Best Portal System 2007
Worlds Best CMS Portal for Forums
Wordpress Approved
etc... We could beat that if we add the Items that I listed earlier.
Where are all these awards listed..?
To be clear though, its not my goal to have TP become any of these awards - all I want is a useful tool, and while its adequate now, its not quite how I want it. The core is not at its best or most efficient, and any extras will suffer as well.
Personally, having had a look at MKPortal I don't think the integration with SMF is that great. It's like having two different sites. Yes you can get the forum to appear within the Portal, but then you end up having two main navigation menus. It's looks crap too, sorry lol.
It tries to use the theme you have selected via SMF, but it looks nowhere near as good as a theme made to work specially for SMF+TP. To me it all looks a bit of a mess. I can see modifying it to blend in would be a lot of unwanted work. But anyway, sorry for going off topic.
I think some kind of micro-blogging thing would be okay - like a 'My Page' type thing, without it getting too complicated.
OMG, Bloc, you see those in the news... Year Ceromonial Awards, there different in areas you live... Bloc, tell me what Country, State, Province what ever you live in and Ill search it up on the news and tell you if your in the right area, I go there and see who gets best game awards, etc.
Also, MKPortal has that problem, so what Im saying is that not to have it under something like iframe, MKPortal is a FTP Program and TP is a Package program, so its better, but Im talking about the features it has.. Blog, Wiki, Pages, etc...
blizz-craft if you care to look at the about (http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?action=about) page you will see where Bloc and some of the team are from ::)
TP works as FTP aswell, you dont HAVE to install as a package if you dont like to.
And why advert that portal softwar so hard on here ? If you like it so much, why not stay out from here and keep using MK instead ?
The award they have seem to be their own, cant find anything on the net from voting it to be a winning award software, it even has less votes the TP on several script listing sites iv'e been to so i guess we also can make a page and say we are an award winning software :2funny:
Awards to me are not self thought up pages with "oh darn we are so good and better then anyone else out there" but something you earn by getting peoples votes on various sites that show you have a good or great software.
Quite true..and neither TP nor MKP is known as a "major" portal/CMS software - yet lol. ;)
Anyways, if we keep the "being best" aspect out of it, I very much like TP to be useful as a wiki light, gallery light etc. ...because the strength of it will not be that it can be many things, but that its integrated. Most people don't need a full-blown gallery or blog, and TP with the help of SMF provide the backend for quicker versions. "Tiny" has always been for a reason, even it TP doesn't feel "tiny" anymore, its still true to the idea.
So even when these modules come, they won't be a elaborate as the similar mods - but I'll do my best to make them useful! (or any other developer that dare to start making modules ;) )
I really like some of the things Drupal does - not so much the complex OOP coding style, but the versatility of the software and its modules. Thats a beacon for TP and myself no doubt.
I dont know if its been asked or talked again but the thing im only thinking and its kinda nifty too is to have Article in topics. Meaning that articles show up as topics or at least the commenting in them showed as posts.
I think Vbulletin is like that?
Im pretty sure i have seen something similar in an old topic, dont remember exactly tho :buck2:
QuoteBloc :or any other developer that dare to start making modules
Is there any guidance anywhere for making modules ?
Quote from: freddy888 on June 19, 2009, 11:51:07 AM
QuoteBloc :or any other developer that dare to start making modules
Is there any guidance anywhere for making modules ?
Not as such yet, as the code have changed between the betas. But I plan to have a "skeleton" module included for anyone wanting to try.
Coming back to this - I'd like to try it sometime, when you are nearer to something that will explain the process.
But on other things; I thought of something that would be nice in TP - it's a feature you see in Joomla. Whereby you can insert a special cut off point in an article and instead of showing the whole of the rest of the article, it gives a 'read more...' link. This link takes you to the article in full.
I figure this would help a lot with layout of articles, say if you want two side by side - it would be good to format them so they are roughly the same length - just to make it look neater.
That's my big idea hehe.
Thats already in TP just use the intro text: in the edit/add article
Ah yup you are right. Not such a bright idea then. Ho hum.. :uglystupid2:
nice one, try think of another one freddy lol
Only just noticed this is in Chit Chat, wouldn't it be better placed in Feedback?
Just trying to keep the boards organised.
Quote from: flash_os on April 04, 2009, 11:44:32 AM
It's need to be standalone portal.
This is the best thing i have heard
I just want to see it , It is like watching paint dry waiting for this i know it has been asked a million times but when do we see it
What we really need to do is stop providing Bloc with new ideas, that way he might be able to 'finish' the next beta, instead of endlessy adding new features!
:)
Quote from: mc on March 07, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
What we really need to do is stop providing Bloc with new ideas, that way he might be able to 'finish' the next beta, instead of endlessy adding new features!
:)
Good point mc and I agree
Quote from: Lesmondâ„¢ on March 07, 2010, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: mc on March 07, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
What we really need to do is stop providing Bloc with new ideas, that way he might be able to 'finish' the next beta, instead of endlessy adding new features!
:)
Good point mc and I agree
There is only 1 feature it needs and that is to be LIVE