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Development => Support => Installation => Topic started by: Angelotus on November 04, 2007, 04:50:00 PM

Title: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Angelotus on November 04, 2007, 04:50:00 PM
 :) Hi,

I really want to use tp with my boards (http://www.klifix.eu/u/), but I have no idea how to install tp. I've searched for docu how to install tp, but couldn't really find a proper readme. I am a bit of a noob with this. Is there anyone who can help me out with this?
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Dragooon on November 04, 2007, 04:51:52 PM
Installing TP is very simple. Its like installing any other mods.
To install TP
1. Download TinyPortal Package Installer (http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item745)
2. Upload it to package manager(Admin > Packages > Download Packages) and Apply it.
EDIT:
Make sure to turn your theme to SMF Default Theme Core before installing.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Ken. on November 04, 2007, 05:01:56 PM
Just to add a little more to what Dragooon posted:

... as posted many times before by G6

Installing TinyPortal:

First thing ( BACKUP, BACKUP and again BACKUP) and;
EVERYTHING MUST BE SET TO SMF DEFAULTS, THEME, LANGUAGE.

1. Always upgrade SMF first, it's the very base you are running everything on. ( note that all files will be replaced so mods will be lost and have to be reinstalled again, but they will have to be updated to the new versions anyway)

2. Download and install the new TP package through the package manager ( The DB holds all the info so nothing will be lost, tp fetches the tables again during the install)

3. Download and install every other mod you want to have install, Install the biggest one first and then the rest.

4. Now you can download the themes you want to have, Make sure they are for TP and not just SMF. Install them in the themes and layout manager.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Dragooon on November 04, 2007, 05:02:47 PM
I am seeing a Successful TP over his site, so I take that you installed TP Successfully?
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Blunt on November 07, 2007, 07:58:24 PM
My package manager doesn't work - it won't even install the SMF patch, so how do you go about installing manually?

The read me text file packaged with Tinyportal is typical of most things to do with SMF and TP - it's of no use whatsoever when trying to install or update the product. A proper read me file, complete with even brief installation instructions would save a hell of a lot of anxiety all round, and would reduce the number of requests for support on these forums.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Nokonium on November 07, 2007, 08:19:22 PM
Blunt, do please remember that TP 0.983 is a beta version not a full release so documetation will not be comprehensive.

If your package manager doesn't work properly it is likely to be because the Packages Folder and its subfolders do not have adequate chmod permissions to run the required scripts, set them to 777. 
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: tick on November 07, 2007, 08:20:18 PM
A bit of searching will help all the anxiety .   Seek and ye shall find.  :-)  http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?topic=14230
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Blunt on November 07, 2007, 09:27:49 PM
Thanks for your advice. I just get so frustrated sometimes. My forum has been down for the past seven hours, since trying to upgrade to SMF 1.1.4, and it seems like whenever I try to do any kind of upgrade, something goes horribly wrong.

My packages folder is 777 throughout, yet the package manager still doesn't work. Doesn't matter what package I try to install, I get the following message:

QuoteThe package you tried to upload either is not a valid package or has become corrupted.

Sorry to hijack the thread. Should I start another and ask for help properly?
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: IchBin on November 08, 2007, 12:09:53 AM
Have you followed any suggestions at SMF to get your package manager to work?
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=28393.0
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Xarcell on November 08, 2007, 12:19:53 AM
have you tried opening the package and re-zipping it?

You choose the upgrade  or update package?
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: cstrike on November 08, 2007, 03:30:30 AM
hi.i need support

install tp
1. Download TinyPortal Package Installer
2. Upload it to package manager(Admin > Packages > Download Packages) and Apply it.
and ...
Error 500: Script Execution Failure

As manually install this package? By FTP

Sorry my english is veri bad
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: IchBin on November 08, 2007, 04:02:50 AM
Manual installation instructions is located in the Docs board. A link is in my signature.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Blunt on November 08, 2007, 09:30:30 AM
Quote from: IchBinâ,,¢ on November 08, 2007, 12:09:53 AM
Have you followed any suggestions at SMF to get your package manager to work?
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=28393.0

Thanks for the suggestion, but the attachment is missing from the initial post, and I'm afraid that after trawling through thirty-five pages of posts I will find the thread contains outdated information, or I'll follow every link and spend the rest of my life going around in futile and evermore exasperating circles until I'm wild with frustration, and thereupon run amok with my pants stretched over my head and pencils shoved up each nostril.

I will try asking my crappy hosts (asmallorange.com) to enable PHP suExec, though, as suggested. Most of the problems I've ever come across with SMF and Tiny Portal, seem to be down to the way my hosts set up their servers.

Quotehave you tried opening the package and re-zipping it?

No, but I can't imagine that'll work, because I've also tried expanding the file and uploading the decompressed contents via an ftp prog. Nothing works. Even the ftp drops hundreds of files. That's what makes me wonder if something like mod_security is rejecting the files based on their names, but I'm told by my hosts that's impossible.

QuoteYou choose the upgrade  or update package?

I've tried both. Hell, I've tried allsorts. That's why I eventually came here - I was wondering if perhaps TP was fighting the SMF upgrade, whether there were compatibilty issues, or something.

Thanks for the help, everybody.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Zetan on November 08, 2007, 09:43:16 AM
If you have a server/hosting problem, thats something you need to work out with the host.
It has nothing to do with TP/SMF. You can stick whatever you like up your nose, with whatever you like on your head.. It still wont make a difference to the package manager, which is part of SMF.

Many people manage to install SMF/TP on a daily basis, many people manage to follow the Docs, Manual installs, Package manager install.. Themes.. and Yes, some do require help.

Resolve the server issues.

Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Blunt on November 08, 2007, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: Zetan on November 08, 2007, 09:43:16 AM
If you have a server/hosting problem, thats something you need to work out with the host.
It has nothing to do with TP/SMF. You can stick whatever you like up your nose, with whatever you like on your head.. It still wont make a difference to the package manager, which is part of SMF.

Many people manage to install SMF/TP on a daily basis, many people manage to follow the Docs, Manual installs, Package manager install.. Themes.. and Yes, some do require help.

Resolve the server issues.



Well, sorry if my feeble attempts at humour upset you, but I tend to try and laugh when what I really want to do is murder somebody.

It's not altogether certain it is a hosting problem. If it was I wouldn't be here asking questions. All this stuff seems straight forward and easy to you, but I know next to nothing about it, and what I do know has been hard earned. The last thing I need is somebody berating me while I'm trying to figure all this stuff out.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: IchBin on November 08, 2007, 11:01:39 PM
Its easy to read into something on the internet. And I think both of you managed to do that just now. :) Well, I can say one thing for sure. The package manager is so well built I haven't seen a problem with it personally. In fact, every problem I've ever seen has come down to a setting on the server that restricts the package manager from being able to do its job.
You don't need to follow the links in that topic. But if you read through it you'll find some suggestions or work arounds that people have posted to make it work.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Slash_Mckagan on November 09, 2007, 01:20:01 AM
Well I have a problem installing TP with the latest version of SMF,I manually uploaded all the file,I CHMOD everything and ran the tp_manual.php and it said that it configured the tables in the datebase,but and when I refresh my site,there's no tp there just my SMF,I've read the docs to install maually,anyone have any idea why tp sin't showing up on my site?
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: G6Cad on November 09, 2007, 05:52:58 AM
When you install TP manually, you need to first make sure you use the MANUAL install package from the downbloadsection.
When you have the file, extract it on your local PC, upload the files through FTP.'
Then read the modinstructions in the DOC section (in the menutab "docs")

Add all the code manually to your SMF files as the modinstruction shows.

When you have done these 2 steps, point the browser to th file manual_tp_install.php and let it update/install the database tables.
Offcourse all this with the forum set to use Default SMF Core theme, and English language.   Refresh the forum and TP is installed.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Slash_Mckagan on November 09, 2007, 07:33:03 AM
well I've done everything mod instruction  says to do but it just messed up everything and now my SMF is screwed up. :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: G6Cad on November 09, 2007, 08:02:47 AM
Well, cant give you any help unless you help us first.

Screwd up SMF forum ?
What error do you get ?
What steps did you do ?
A link to your site ?

Please read the posting guide we have, they are there for the reason that you have to provide US with enough information so WE can help YOU.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Slash_Mckagan on November 09, 2007, 08:06:14 AM
I just deleted everything and I am starting over,maybe I'll get it right this time.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Blunt on November 09, 2007, 09:11:47 AM
Quote from: IchBinâ,,¢ on November 08, 2007, 11:01:39 PM
Its easy to read into something on the internet. And I think both of you managed to do that just now. :) Well, I can say one thing for sure. The package manager is so well built I haven't seen a problem with it personally. In fact, every problem I've ever seen has come down to a setting on the server that restricts the package manager from being able to do its job.
You don't need to follow the links in that topic. But if you read through it you'll find some suggestions or work arounds that people have posted to make it work.

Thanks for the reassurance - half the problem I have is that I'm not sure where the fault is likely to lie. With a car you can hear a rattle or something, so when you follow it back to the source the solution is apparent. With forum faults, I don't know where to start, so I tend to try everything until I find something that works. Alternatively, I try everything, and then give up.

One thing I wondered was whether TP might have to be updated at the same time, otherwise there might be compatibility issues. That's why I came here, because you guys are usually very knowledgeable, as well as being pleasant and helpful.

I'll do as you said and work my way through the thread. Thanks again :)

Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: G6Cad on November 09, 2007, 09:47:00 AM
If you update SMF, it's not always needed to update TP. It really depend what the SMF update was all about and how it was made.
But updating TP is to prefer if there have been changes in the DB.
Updating TP is quite easy, most of the times it's enough to just download the TP package and extract the files and upload them/overwrite the old ones.
Then point the browser to the manual_tp_install.php so it check through the DB and make the changes (if any)

If you updated SMF with all fresh files, you will have to add the TP strings to the SMF files as they got lost when you upgraded SMF.

Easy way is to always try the package manager first as it does all the work for you, but if it fail, you have to go with the manuall install.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Blunt on November 10, 2007, 04:40:48 PM
I think I know at least what part of the problem was. My hosts have set default permissions to 644, so anything I upload is not writable until I go into Cpanel and change the permissions to 777. So I'm guessing the package manager uploads the files and then cannot open them.

One of the SMF support crew updated SMF for me, and I've now manually updated TP by editing all the files as G6's link told me to do.

Thanks for the help, all :)
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: dragon042 on November 11, 2007, 03:45:15 AM
Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble installing TP on SMF 1.1.4.

I successfully uploaded the TP package onto SMF, but when I try to apply the package, I get this error:
   Type     Action     Description
1.    Extract Tree    ./Themes    
2.    Extract Tree    ./Sources    
3.    Extract Tree    ./tp-downloads    
4.    Extract Tree    ./tp-images    
5.    Extract Tree    ./FCKeditor    
6.    Extract Tree    ./wysiwyg    
7.    Execute Code    tp_install.php    
8.    Execute Modification    ./index.php    Test failed
9.    Execute Modification    .Sources/Load.php    Test successful
10.    Execute Modification    .Themes/default/index.template.php    Test failed
11.    Execute Modification    ./Themes/babylon/index.template.php    Test successful
12.    Execute Modification    .Sources/Subs.php    Test successful
13.    Execute Modification    .Sources/ManagePermissions.php    Test successful
14.    Execute Modification    .Sources/Security.php    Test successful
15.    Execute Modification    .Sources/Errors.php    Test successful
16.    Execute Modification    .Themes/default/style.css    Test successful
17.    Execute Modification    .Themes/default/Help.template.php    Test successful
18.    Execute Modification    .Sources/Profile.php    Test successful
19.    Execute Modification    ./SSI.php    Test successful

I tried chmoding both the index.php and index.template.php files to 777, but to no avail.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Ken. on November 11, 2007, 11:03:24 AM
If your permissions are correct and TinyPortal can not be installed then you may need to do a manual install, it's easy to do... just take your time and read the Docs carefully.

http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?topic=14230
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Zetan on November 11, 2007, 11:15:03 AM
If you are getting errors on just the 1 file, you can continue, but you will need to follow the Manual Install instructions and make the edits to the file which has the error.

You seem to have 2 errors, it should be fine to install and edit both those files following the sections in the docs which refer to those files.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: IchBin on November 12, 2007, 12:23:23 AM
By all means, don't forget to use the search. This error has been covered many, many times.
Title: Re: Installing TP with SMF 1.1.4
Post by: Angelotus on January 18, 2008, 03:36:36 PM
Hi, reading this post I noticed I never said thanks, so...THANKS! ;D