I have gone back to SMF1.1RC1 for the time being. It seems the loads were high on RC2, and I want to be sure it wasn't the RC2 that caused it, hence the move back.
EDIT: SMF 1.1RC2 is not to blame, rather Firefox and its 1.5 bug.
That is a pity. Our server has has serious slowdown problems and that has neither TP or SMF1.1 There are a lot of worm problems about at the moment that is causing a lot of server problems. Last night was the first time I'd seen The Bloc Zone chugging.
I hope that things are sorted soon, it couldn't have been an easy decision.
No, it wasn't. I like RC2 a lot. :)
Still, I have done some things now to see if it works out..because loads were still high after I reverted. They do seem a bit lower right now(with the same amount of visitors).
So do I, you have a share in 1.1, I only have an interest.
(https://www.tinyportal.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nokonium.plus.com%2Fblack-cat%2Fnice%2Ftherethere.gif&hash=8617febe37d233ffd7bb2da1bf7d2edede791617) ;)
The known CPU usage bug strikes again.
I already delete my whole site because my hosting provider said that my site continue to produce high CPU use.
I cancel my hosting account also.
I am planning to get a dedicated server now :-\
So, in the interest of being practical ( realistic ) here, should we consider reverting to RC1 and thereby being able to use TP as is for now?
Or do you anticipate continuing on with TP for RC2 and a near future .80 release?
Either way, it's fine with me, I'd just like to know so I'm not in a holding pattern for a few months while things are resolved. If it's a week or two, fine, I can hold off...longer than that, I'll need to re-evaluate.
BTW Bloc, thanks for all your efforts to date...this is a great portal.
RC2 support will go on for TP, it was just the need to see if that version cause loads or not I switched back.
But I did something more than just revert. I renamed script.js after adding the codefix I posted earlier in here...so everyone was forced to download the new version of the script. And I denied 2 very persistent IP numbers..after that my load (with 5-15 people online) dropped from 4-5 to 0.7-1. Quite a change.
So I will just see how this goes for a few days, and then try RC2 again with this new setup in place.
I really think its the darn Firefox that cause this...and not SMF itself.
Okay, thanks for the update....I will stay in my "holding pattern" for now.
Keep up the great work.
firefox? causing problems? no way! ;)
Can you elaborate Bloc? What makes you say FF?
Just open two or three tabs with FF load a page with e.g. flash or js then just wait, and take a look at the taskmanager...
1.5 seems to me to have a memory leak.
with 1.5 rc1 the ff coders implement a "ping" stuff in backround.. which can causes troubles. sorry don't know better how to explain, i got some articles in german, but there should be also some in english around the web.
Pyx
This article on Linux Pipeline (http://www.linuxpipeline.com/174909795;jsessionid=FROFKDFFOQEYAQSNDBCSKHSCJUMEKJVN) may shed some light on it.
Quote from: Bloc on January 21, 2006, 12:48:10 AM
in here...so everyone was forced to download the new version of the script. And I denied 2 very persistent IP numbers..after that my load (with 5-15 people online) dropped from 4-5 to 0.7-1. Quite a change.
I get this message when visiting www.tinyportal.co.uk:
Bloczone / Tinyportal.net is down for maintenace. It will be up shortly once things are sorted out.Was it my IP adress you blocked? If so I'm totally unaware doing something wrong ???
Quote from: Mr. Jinx on January 21, 2006, 12:26:33 PM
Quote from: Bloc on January 21, 2006, 12:48:10 AM
in here...so everyone was forced to download the new version of the script. And I denied 2 very persistent IP numbers..after that my load (with 5-15 people online) dropped from 4-5 to 0.7-1. Quite a change.
I get this message when visiting www.tinyportal.co.uk:
Bloczone / Tinyportal.net is down for maintenace. It will be up shortly once things are sorted out.
Was it my IP adress you blocked? If so I'm totally unaware doing something wrong ???
The site was taken offline so Bloc could do some work. Nothing you've done, you're here now aren't you?
No I still get this message when I go to http://www.tinyportal.net/
I tried refreshing and clearing the cache!
http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php does work however.
That would be because Bloc hasn't removed that page yet (IIRC, it used to redirect to the second URL automatically).
Quote from: Mr. Jinx on January 21, 2006, 01:22:46 PM
No I still get this message when I go to http://www.tinyportal.net/
I tried refreshing and clearing the cache!
http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php does work however.
Quote from: Rasyr on January 21, 2006, 01:33:12 PM
That would be because Bloc hasn't removed that page yet (IIRC, it used to redirect to the second URL automatically).
Ah, thats maybe why it so quiet here at the moment. (I had the cached page, thats why I didnt see that).
Yes..thats right, I need to change the redirect script back. :)
was wondering why this site was down... hehe
QuoteYes..thats right, I need to change the redirect script back
I'm really don't know to rolling back SMF version after installed (upgrade) new version on it, how to make it ?
(while with TPversion is very easy ;))
I would like to go back to RC1. The problem is the database is in RC2.
I saw Bloc has done it...how?
You need to revert all the actions take place in database when you upgrade to RC2.
I already done that 4 days ago and believe me is very hard to do it.
With great difficulty I expect.
We had a slowdown problem that affected all of our test sites, then we discovered that the database was completely full. So we moved one and the other 1.1RC2 is a bit better. The one we moved speeded up considerably. So if you have a spare database back up the board and move it, easier than downgrading.
QuoteYou need to revert all the actions take place in database when you upgrade to RC2.
I already done that 4 days ago and believe me is very hard to do it.
You can say more details about way to "take place in database" (or full back-up) via from C-panel or PHP-admin ? :uglystupid2:
Thanks !
Basically I just uploaded the RC1 upgrade files, did a upgrade( with no errors btw), and then started the forum.
At once i got sql errors like I expected, so i compared my local smf_log_xxx tables ( on a fresh RC1) with my now RC2-back-to-RC1 tables. I think I changed at least 5-6 fields on the log_xx tables...mostly from "MSG" MEDIUMINT( 8 ) to "logTime" INT(10).
The mark read logs etc. got wrong but no big loss.
It may still be wrong here and there..but i am not planning on staying on RC1, becuase the keepalive script is THE SAME on RC1 and RC2. So it might be other things in RC2 that does this, but more than anything it got better when I changed the javascript. Problem was that a lot of users had the "old" script.js in their cache - meaning their Firefoxes still hammered against the server.
So I changed the name of the script, and then all got forced to use the new one.
Where can I find more info about this javascript fix?
I was planning on upgrading the one set of SMF forums we have going to RC2 this weekend (and putting TP on it, with the mod to make the forum the homepage) and I would rather implement this fix right away than wait... :D
QuoteWhere can I find more info about this javascript fix?
From
Bloc onlyÂÃ, ;) ;D
So a new installation of TP with RC2 on a new site would not have problems?
QuoteSo a new installation of TP with RC2 on a new site would not have problems ?
I'm sure will be not. I've tested it beforeÂÃ, :)
You can download EasyPHP at here (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/quickeasyphp/easyphp1-8_setup.exe) to virtual NET at your home and test it on your local network with EasyPHP before get on Internet site ;)
Quote from: Rasyr on January 21, 2006, 09:32:21 PM
Where can I find more info about this javascript fix?
I was planning on upgrading the one set of SMF forums we have going to RC2 this weekend (and putting TP on it, with the mod to make the forum the homepage) and I would rather implement this fix right away than wait... :D
http://www.tinyportal.net/smf/index.php?topic=1054.msg16989#msg16989
Simplemachines.org has also provided a javascript fix http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=66862.0
Yes, its the same one.
You can rename the call to script.js?rc2-1 or something, but as I learned: even better to rename the script - if you have a large suerbase already. (all with their own old cached copy).
I'm sorry if this is a 'noob' question but does this mean that TP7.5 will now work with RC2 ?
Having a hard time figuring out how to install this on smf1.1RC2 .
No, this is just to SMF related issue, not TP at all. It will not make TP0.75 install on SMF1.1RC2. Thats decided by the package.xml file inside the TP zip file.
Quote from: clemenzo on January 22, 2006, 01:17:47 AM
Simplemachines.org has also provided a javascript fix http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=66862.0
this works on my site -- I just copied over the new script and cleared the catch(a must to do) -- funny, also it let other things start working like googlemap mod
New user here :)
Currently have a Joomla! & SMF setup, but not for long.
As soon as there is a stable version for SMF 1.1RC2, I'm jumping ship to Tinyportal! O0
wow im guessing my hosting company must be really mad at me :S if this problem happens with all the RC2 installs , im just waiting for an update in firefox its about time already.
Since the firefox bug is fixed, are we looking at restoring back RC2 for TP here so that TP0.8 can be released soonest?
He said in another thread that he will update to RC2 ASAP. Not sure about the next version of TP, but as it has been said....it's coming when it's ready. :)
I think it was a SMF issue, not TP. Which is why he reverted back. But it WAS a firefox bug. I think SMF has found a way to work around it. I dunno yet...
I could be wrong, sinec I just scimming over info without really reading it.