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Mkportal --> TinyPortal

Started by liga-pes, June 26, 2009, 12:32:55 PM

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ZarPrime

Herr Inoddorell,

OK, I found a topic on SMF that tells how to do this.  It's located here ...
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=302687.msg2001564#msg2001564

If you read on down in that topic, there is an interesting method written by Tyrsson of SMF Support.  Basically, you can create an index.php file in the root that calls the SMF Forum from the folder where it is located.  If you do it this way, you don't have to go through the hassle of moving all of your Forum into the root of your site.  That post is here ...
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=302687.msg2001789#msg2001789

Of course, MKPortal will have to be uninstalled from the root of your site first before anything.  Google bots may have to reindex the site anyway.

ZarPrime

Herr Inoddorell

Alright, thank you, but if Google may have to reindex the site, he will lose its PageRank?

ZarPrime

#12
It's hard to tell how doing this will affect the page ranking for the forum.  It looks to me like it couldn't hurt anything though.  However, I am going to bounce this off the team here and see if anybody else has any thoughts on it.

Herr Inoddorell, give me a little time on this.  If anyone else comes in here to comment on it, you may have to translate for liga-pes.

ZP

EDIT:  I don't know much about how page rank works with Google or even how to find out what a page rank is for a site.  Let me address this with the team and see if anybody else knows anything about this.

Herr Inoddorell

Sure, don't worry. I'll be here for everything I can help :up:

ZarPrime

OK, I have placed a topic in the Team Board about this so perhaps somebody else who knows about this will come in here and join in.

In the meantime, I found a PageRank Checker online, but I don't know how accurate it is.  It is probably correct.  The url is here ---> http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php

I ran both of his url's through it and it actually says that the PageRank for his main url is 0 out of 10 and for the one with /foro/index.php is 1 out of 10 ...
Portal index at --> http://www.liga-pes.com/index.php
Forum index at --> http://www.liga-pes.com/foro/index.php

So, it appears that his Forum itself already has a higher page rank.

ZarPrime

Herr Inoddorell

Oh, I think I missed something in the explanation :-\. I mentioned PageRank but I don't know if he's using it, maybe he's using another google positioning ranking, no exactly PageRank, he didn't specify for it. My apologies about that :-X.

I used http://www.liga-pes.com/ url and it throws 2/10 ???.

liga-pes

First I want to thank your interest in my problem. :)

ZarPrime the main url for my pagerank is 2, because the users put at navigator bar "www.liga pes.com" and not "www.liga-pes.com/index.php" so the best pagerank of my website is at "www.liga-pes.com" (although this is redirected to "www.liga-pes.com/index.php") and the pagerank of my forum url is 1.

I understand that TP is a mod and therefore installed within SMF. Then the portal page stay under the banner of the forum and the navigation menu right?

I want install TP at ".com / forum /" which is the place where I installed SMF, but that the portal is seen in ".com / index.php.

I wait to have explained well since I continue studying English now and it is not very good. :P

Thanks,
Greetings

bloc

The problem is that TP doesn't exist in another folder than SMF - it "takes over" the plain "index.php" for itself(which normally is the SMF front) and adds anew section called index.php?action=forum for SMF front.

So having them separate isn't possible as such..but you can do a few tricks, like for example using SSI.php on a page located at your root. its somewhere in these boards, a explanation of that, and it will extract from forum(which can stay at /foro/ folder) and present links that goes into the /foro/ folder then.

About Pagerank..it doesn't mean so much if the site structure changes - as long as the urls that have high pagerank(in your case at the root, without "index.php. Much the same here, I got pagerank 6, but lesser with the index.php attached) stays the same. So i would actually just move everything to root and bet on that pagerank instead, since its higher.

ZarPrime

Quote from: Bloc on June 29, 2009, 11:32:08 AM
So having them separate isn't possible as such..but you can do a few tricks, like for example using SSI.php on a page located at your root. its somewhere in these boards, a explanation of that, and it will extract from forum(which can stay at /foro/ folder) and present links that goes into the /foro/ folder then.

Yes, you could do it with ssi.php and that has been discussed here on TP before.

In this post on SMF ---> http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=302687.msg2001789#msg2001789

Tyrsson mentions a method that seems quite elegant ...

Quote from: Tyrsson
To redirect a subdomained forum to the root domain name do this:

You don't really have to move it.  You can do this.

If you don't already have a index.php file in your root directory


<?php
header
("Location:http://mysite.com/smf");
?>


Save this as index.php in the root.  Of course change the url to point to the correct place ;)

Once the MKPortal index.php is no longer in the root, it seems like this method would work pretty well without using ssi.php but I don't know because I haven't tried it.  However, this should allow you to use MySite.com or MySite.com/index.php and it should pickup the Forum in the /foro/ folder instead without having to move the Forum to the root of the site.

ZarPrime

bloc

Yes, you can redirect..but I suspect Google picks up on it when it redirects so quickly.

Maybe its better to use SSI.php to show something which then LINKS back into the forum folder.That way its clear thats its 2 separate pages.