Thanks and question with strange appearance

[sangham.net]

Dear Tinyport team, dear forum user,

first of all thank you very much for making it possible to use this great application. It's more than just a useful solution. 


Link to my forum: sangham dot net
SMF version: SMF ver. 2.0.4
TP version: TP ver. 1.0 (not sure)
Default Forum Language: english
Theme name and version: small layout modifications based core
Browser Name and Version: firefox 18.0.2 (just upload activated while searching for version)
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Related Error messages: strange appearance - within the display of the download able files one file has some parts of the shout box inside the display. I have upload a screen shot of this appearence:  *sangham dot net/images/tinyportal.jpg*

Also the ordering is somehow strange (pyramid that grows smaller and smaller, from one file to the next)


Thanks you very much and big plaudit and praise for your performance of how to manage and deal with newcomer (smart log in process and great offering of a frame for help and support) !

[IchBin]

Is this the page where you see the problem?
http://sangham.net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item25

I do not see this problem in Chrome or IE. Do you see this problem only while logged in? Or in a specific browser?

[sangham.net]

Thanks for your replay, IchBin!

No on the page you listed is no problem but here "sangham dot net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat6" (also) and it only appears when I am logged in. Its where ever categories are shown.

"sangham dot net/images/tinyportal1.jpg" I uploaded a screenshot, its also that not the whole contend is listed. But when you click to sort by ID it appears in this strange pyramid system  (shoutbox parts are inside the listing of this file as well): "sangham dot net/images/tinyportal2.jpg"

The shoutbox parts are not shown when logged out, but the pyramidic listing is still also when logged out

In Windows explorer it is a little similar, but appears in other kind and on other places. There is a small image file (smile) coming from another block but not loaded appearing within on of the file descriptions listed here. This image is not load in the block as well "sangham dot net/Smileys/smile_sangham_s_sw.gif" I am not sure if there is a connection and a supply to find the problem within that.

Thanks a lot for you care.

[IchBin]

Does the page still have a problem if you view it with no blocks shown? Try this link:
http://sangham.net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat6;noblocks

You must be admin to use "noblocks" in the url.

[sangham.net]

No, it does not appear and seems to be free of that. (Yes,I have admin possibilities given)

[sangham.net]

..too quick, sorry... Only in the first moment (only one single item is listed similar to the tinyportal1.jpg screenshot) if you change sort by ID it looks the same (tinyportal2.jpg), Pyramid and shoutbox content in this listing.

[IchBin]

So the problem does not show if no blocks are shown? This would likely indicate you have some stray code in one of those blocks that is causing the layout issues. I would disable the blocks in manage blocks section, then enable one by one to see if a specific block is causing the problem.

[sangham.net]

No, the problem exists even the blocks are hidden/duabled. The appearance is just a little different and the content appears is from two different blocks. One time its a picture included in one self made HTML block and one time its is the smiley part of the shout block. So it does not seem to be a strange code in one specific block. I will look if there is any strange code within the self made block, but I will be not able to investigate the shout box block in this regard.

Thanks a lot for your care till yet!

[sangham.net]

I have disabled this two blocks (shout box and a BBC/html) - it does not have any strange code inside as far as I can see - and the contend do no more appear in the listings of the downloads. But nevertheless it just shows one item and if you chose sort by ID is the only way to make them all visible but it appeas in the strange pyramide form with runs out to zero for the last items look here: "sangham dot net/images/tinyportal3.jpg" (screen shot)

[IchBin]

Don't know what to say Johann. I can't see the problem on your site when I'm looking at it. Does it only do this in that particular category? Does it do it in other categories?

[sangham.net]

Thanks for your patient IchBin!
The pyramid effect is within every category (except one), the contetnt of other block phenomena is in two categories present.

I will look at the settings of this one category which seems to produce no problems (generally it the one with has limited access) and comparing it to the other, maybe I find the problem.
I will prove it first, and tell it further.

[sangham.net]

I looked further, actually there are two categories which seem to have no problem and both of them have disabled guests and unregistered user to access the content.
But... i have put them (as a prove) on enabled like the others and they seem to work proper as well. So it does not seems to be a category - depending problem (or group permission problem).

[sangham.net]

Sorry for disturbing one more time. I just wanted to ask if somebody would have an additional idea, where I could find the problem and solve it.

_()_
Thank you very much in advanced!

[IchBin]

Until someone can see the cause, I can't give you any fix. I can't replicate the same issue on my test site....

[sangham.net]

Thanks for you care. Do you have any idea how or who could see that?

[sangham.net]

Sorry for requesting once more.

Do you know any possibility how to fix that. If it is a matter of service in return, please let me know. I could try to request support for such.

_()_

[IchBin]

If you want you can create a temporary admin account on your site that I can login to take a look?

[sangham.net]

Thank you very much for your offer. Off course I would like to do that. I guess its good if I send you a PM in this regard.

_()_

[sangham.net]

Dear  IchBin™,

thanks all the hints you gave me, I have tried and discovered a little and searched for some reactions.

The display "problem" of blank.gif I simply cleared by using another blank.gif as the default. I was a little to scared to go into a working system and php stuff.

It seems that if there is a html code used which uses the "align" within the first 200 signs that code is used also for the general display of the shortcuts of the downloads in the list. If there is just used <p></p> everything is fine.
The pyramid layout comes from adding "align=center" (or left, right...) next, and next.

This problems do not arise if the editor BBC is enabled, but the display does not produce any html out of the BBC design but shows the text simply like it is.

The general funktion of the 3 various possibilities of editor "No" "BBC" "html" is not clear for me. Some seems to be used as producing tool, but some have sudden impact of the display as well.

[IchBin]

The real answer to the problem here is to put a box for a short description which does not allow bbc or html. If the short description is not filled out, then show no description for the download item on the category page. But, unfortunately that would have to be for another version of TP.

[sangham.net]

I thought so as well after understanding it a little and your more then helpful hints. So I hope there will be a little more participation and discussion here so that there is a lot of reason and support to bring out the next generation of this great tool you had developed.

If it should come that I am able to give something back here, I will try to do so.

Thanks for your great and generous support, time and help.