CripZone has expired, and I'm setting up a new site in Crip's Honer, and will be call CripZone and the url will be jpr62.net, I have SMF installed and will start uploading things tonight and as long as it takes. I think it's the least I can do for someone that did what he did for the Community and. He often told me of all toughs of you that helped him along the way. We had no control over his hosting and or domain, so let's start a new and I have most all of his most current themes. If anyone that know anybody at SMF that can pass this on, once I have it all set up it will be appreciated. OH BTW Jim is helping me out in this as always! :) the Admins of this site will be announce soon as it's completed!.I will only be helping out will support!
regards,
Maxx
Cool, Maxx. If you guys need anything, just ask. :)
Good one :) the domain "cripzone"..is it taken?
Great news.
As far as I know the Cripzone, is taken, however, I just got word that we may have gotten his current URL domain jpr62.com
I'm downloading his complete site, now and over night. so we will have the jpr62 "com" and "net" And the jpr62 is the one he was using, so that's maybe a plus! may take us some time but we'll get something going again! I got his DB but, Jeff Had the site set up kinda difficult so, I'll try to get things going again!
Thanks,
Maxx
Ok Crip's site is back and I can't thank Scrubmeister enough for saving it for us! So the link here should get you there, ( redirect ) . Hope to see everyone stop by! Will be tweaking and cleaning some but your log-in should be good if not ,please re join... thanks all!
regards,
Maxx
Bloc,
The last time I checked, I believe that cripzone.com was locked and still owned by Jeff until November. I'm going to look into that again though. I couldn't do anything today because I had some personal business to attend to. I knew that his hosting was going to expire in August as far back as March, even though I didn't know the exact date, but this thing just sort of snuck up on us. I have to except all the blame for that happening since once I found out about it, I couldn't afford to pay the full 2 years. I thought about trying to get my own account with his host. That would have meant that I would have only had to pay a little more than half what Jeff was paying but the required term for a new account is 3 years and that would have been almost as expensive as Jeff's rate for 2 years.
Jim
I see. Well, I could get the domain and even host cripzone if anyone have problems with doing it. And if only the domain: point it to a host.
It would be a shame to let it slip away, his themes and site.
As far as I know we also have the domain: Cripzone.com, and I have some big pay back to do lol! :)
Jeff had/has a demosite and download system and the themes at SMF that we need to try and make sure they can keep them up there, because they will still have support, and Bloc as well I know you never asked, but I'll Never forget what those do for the community!!!
regards,
Maxx
Been thinking of this for a few days now since i read the post. It´s a great thing to keep all Crips work, but I cant stop thinking of all the work still to be done with all the thems when it comes to update and support them. I know Crip sometimes went off line for long periods just because it went to big and took a lot of time to fix updates, support and help all the people that couldent fix things themselfs. It was a full time job keeping all Crips themes up to date and also all changes to the themes users wanted help with.
To keep all his themes will take a lot of effort from someone willing to take on all the work that comes with them.
I wonder if the work involved will be to much to handle ?
Quote from: G6Cad on August 15, 2014, 09:03:30 AM
Been thinking of this for a few days now since i read the post. It´s a great thing to keep all Crips work, but I cant stop thinking of all the work still to be done with all the thems when it comes to update and support them. I know Crip sometimes went off line for long periods just because it went to big and took a lot of time to fix updates, support and help all the people that couldent fix things themselfs. It was a full time job keeping all Crips themes up to date and also all changes to the themes users wanted help with.
To keep all his themes will take a lot of effort from someone willing to take on all the work that comes with them.
I wonder if the work involved will be to much to handle ?
The First thing that comes to mind, is any volunteer/s, will be more than welcome and I have thought, allot about this and BTW was holding me back for some months in thinking about this very thing.
I have myself been working and help out with Crips site and support for 4 years more or less and, in this time among other things no one else wanted address, was the theme updates to SMF 2.1 version if it's is ever completed.
I'd also like try and Clear the air on the Subject of Jeff and his support and work and Myself as well and how I'll feel!
Now I have also Been work with several other Themer's in testing and customizing there themes, and some say, I did a good job and others say nothing.
! have made many many themes and never published any of them , except to friends and upon request. I myself in this time have never seen Jeff close down and give up on anyone asking for reasonable support, I have also seen him get those themes up to date, many times. But this not my only concern here.. it is however to keep up going to the best of my
Old age ability to keep my Brother's work noticed and alive, as a few others have ( and Not many truly good Friends He had.
Now to clear some things up Jeff had request help Form others out their, they know who they, and he got that help of them, and I myself, Jeff and Jim, really did and do appreciate that! ( He was truly and amazing Guy, considering his condition ) and will power.
Now all that being said, I'd try my best to do this for most any of those whom, I worked closely with, no mater if they care much about me or not, that's not point, the point that those who have done great things for this SMF community, like Bloc, Brad, Jeff, Pete and many others, should get the credit due, for the good they did!
We shall try our best to support His themes and of course there will be rules and conditions to be met! and if I do update Jeff's work, I may consider doing away some images and replacing with CSS. and HTM5, where ever possible.
There are some out there that say that, Jeff copied the work of others, and I know He ,like I said previously ask for assistance from others on some issues.
Some people say, I myself can not do themes on my own, but that your opinion and you welcome to it, and being wrong, but I must ask those, can they write from scratch their own JQuery, PHP , scripts, Java, HTML and and everything else it take s to make a the theme work, without using the thoughts and work of those whom came before them / us. Unless you are God and I'm not a believer, then you should not say a word about others, unless it's something good. Not pointing at anyone just saying , it is what is. ( these are things that came up, while I was working with Jeff).
If you can take something nice and in your minds eye, make it better that's, what makes us Men and Woman! and the future come to sight!
Not implying to copy, but all those things that make the PC's work, was not the work on one LOL! and I can trouble shoot electronic to the component level ( IC, transistor resister or what ever) now days you just change a card or board.) No one wants to know how it works! I can take a circuit board and draw a scamatic from that board and create Gerber files and templates for surface mount auto insertion for production, that's by bag, this stuff is just to kill time til I pass on that road to no ware! :) Some judge not knowing anything about the person they are judging> again just generally speaking!
Sorry for the long reply but certain things should be understood and considered.
If you'd like to help keeping his and other works alive, please let me know and you shall be welcome!
And if I misspelled something, I have no excuses and don't really care!
regards,
Maxx
Nice reply Maxx. I
m glad your keeping Jeff's forum up and going..
If I can help in anyway let me know.
Ron..
Thanks Friend and everyone can help by stopping by once and again to say Hey! and we can go from there, of course anyone with theme support knowledge is more than welcome!
Regards,
Maxx
Great response Maxx, even if you somewha lost me a bit in all the text, but i know what you mean.
I´m not that young anymore, and though things in life ( most of us go through crap ) thought me personally, that sometimes, it´s best to let the past go, to be able to see and meet the future.
My thought about Crips themes and just the update part of them was exactly that. He have made so many themes we cant bearly count them, and update them ( rebuild with CSS etc ) will take aLOT of time. In my world, it will be kind of "stuck in the past" instead of move forward and see the future.
The future for me is to remember Crip from the person he was, what he did for a lot of people and leave it with that. It gives me a great feeling remember him like that. I also hade a lot of chats with Crip, me to helped him a lot when he needed to talk, and one thing i learned of Crip was that he really hated to go back on things over and over again, as he wanted to make new things all the time, new themes, new technic things in like, make new friends etc. So for me, and the way i got to know Jeff, he always wanted to move forward in life, not get stuck in the old.
Imfor one would rather see that we make a NEW theme, a theme we call "Jeff in remebrance" and make it the best theme ever to remember him by. That way we will all have Jeff here, but also give us selfs more time for new things as Jeff wanted to do himself.
Just to be clear, it´s MY way of thinking, im not trying to make you or anyone else think the same, i just say this because thats the way I got to know Jeff.
Regards Carina
I like that idea. Maybe even put such a theme up here on this site - as a tribute.
I was thinking this also, of only redoing some his favorite themes. and making even new ones to give out, if I could get some support help from others, if need on his work! I also like the idea a tribute theme! good one:)
I did not mean to quote your post, with any finger pointing, as I tried to explained. It's was just that negative things about Jeff and other here that I just got pissed over. If I came off the wrong way sorry.!
Jeff asked me many times to put my themes on his site, but as you can understand, I did not and obvious reasons, so only admin'd, helped out and did some customer work he did not want.
Gave him some ideas on new stuff I had to learn, some he liked and others not! :)
Jeff liked the graphics allot and I was stuck on getting the newer CSS/CSS3 implemented, with less images!
but in any case we were like brothers and I mean that!
regards,
Maxx,
A tribute theme sounds like a GREAT idea!!! 8)
Since everyone loved Jeff why not make it a community tribute? What about making polls for the colors, etc. as you go along. You choose the choices and let the users decide. Adding the community's input will make it their theme as well giving them something to give back.
As much and you and Jim have helped Jeff you both DESERVE to have themes you have created or will create added to the site! O0
Quote from: Skhilled on August 19, 2014, 04:13:45 PM
Since everyone loved Jeff why not make it a community tribute?
I support Skhilled's idea of a community tribute theme so that all can participate to remember him by.
About the amount of work - its much to take care of for just one guy. If Maxx is up for it, of course..otherwise I suggest the best themes are updated and the lesser(maybe the older foremost) are just kept as-they-are. But updating for SMF 2.0.x is a easy enough affair, its the transfer to 2.1(whenever that will be ready) and of course people asking for special changes.
But are such changes something one can demand from themes that belong to a person no longer with us...? I feel its not. The energy it takes to do that, should better be spent on creating new themes instead.
What always bugged me is the amount of mods that rely on default theme looking exactly as it was created(you all know this, I ranted enough about it lol)..it has always kept "theme frameworks" from really emerging. "Master themes" which themers could create subthemes from, making the theme creation process faster and more creative. The "variants" feature is a joke - yes, it is really - and just changing css is a bit lacking in creating what you seek.
Jeff really made a few "master themes" for himself, relying on default theme, and in that spirit created many variations of a particular style. I think maybe that show off his abilties the best - to try new things, building on a solid base theme. I've mostly gone the opposite way, with the downsides that gives, so again I suggest that just his best themes are kept alive - maybe even as sort of "master themes" for others to learn and build from.
I was think allot on this lately, and feel the best things is just support those whom are still using Crip theme's on the SMF 2.0+ and with the possibility of created a few new ones sense Jeff ask me to in the past.
But that being said, I also like to mention that I am researching other forum platforms, because I'm limited in my time and getting tired of waiting around for the SMF staff to move it.
Not giving up or in, Just want to do new stuff! I will always support SMF and TP and Ezportal as always, but things are so slow.
If ever SMF 2.1 Comes out and I have doubts on that, being done right JMHO!... I will then consider returning to the 2.1 Themes testing, but it's not the same, lots od stuff to reconsider in theremin! I have don a few already acn I know!
And If I chose to use another plate form, I will still be dedicated to helping out those in need as always.
Another thing is that the SMF will always look like smf, and that is something I'm getting real tired of, except for some work that Bloc has done :) as well as some forks. I want the New and exciting like the world is using today!
Not FB,or WP, or Forums But a bit of all combined !
I know Bloc and some others are, but is anyone here looking into Bootstrap and the workings of it... the world changing my friends and this old fart is moving along as far as it takes me lol! :)
regards,
Maxx
This is remake of one of Jeff's theme's I did a lttle bit before He left Us for a better place!
http://www.buildandtell.com/index.php?action=forum;theme=20
I know it's bit heavy but, just want you all to see, one of things I was working for him!
regards,
Maxx
Nice looking theme Maxx. O0
Thanks Ken!
Nice to know someone likes what I try to do!
regards,
Maxx
I agree, looks like a summer or fall theme.
I have several Of my themes that will look over and tweak and place at Crip's site, but I would also like to remake some, of his stuff to keep it alive, or at least his template and my styling and tweaking.
Maybe many don't Care But some of us do, it's looks like so, I shall proceed, I'm finishing up one of mine to place over there!
I think I may stop posting here, for lack of interest! and What ever some may feel about me, I don't care, but I care about those who do for others!
thanks and regards,
maxx
Nice work Maxx. Keep it up!
Quote from: Maxx1 on August 28, 2014, 05:36:51 PM
I think I may stop posting here, for lack of interest! and What ever some may feel about me, I don't care, but I care about those who do for others!
thanks and regards,
maxx
Why do you always turn to this?
You make a post, you ask a question, and when we write and give you our point of views, you get upset and place a threat where you say you will stop posting, stop writing etc.
Not the first time you do this, you even erased your own profile at some point.
If you cant take the answers and thoughts we have on your questions about themes, tp, crips site or what ever, why even aks us from the start?
We all liked Crip, and definatly his workwith themes, but you know what? Crips not here with us anymore, also, when he was, he didnt ask any of us for any help with his themes, he asked you to help him.
Offcourse we can help with what ever we can, but we do not want to take all the time we have on our hands to work on old themes, when we want to take that little time to go forward.
As I said before, let the past be just that, the past, and try to look forward instead.
To me, the best way to honour Crip is to keep TP live, wake it up again with new ideas and keep it online, get back to new grounds and new times with new interested TP people.
Crip called TP his home for a long time, cant we just keep this home running with a new spark and that way, still have the home Crip loved?
No dissrespect towards you or your work Maxx, but it is really not fun to start something new with grumpy attitude that will only lead to negative energy.
Just my 2 cents
Too Bad you have no clue here, not all, but many say they liked Crip and, yet only a very few do anything to help and thanks for all Your's, I got upset before because some wanted me to support Bloc's themes, and no one want to move on with that except me and I'm still offering it, You see the difference is some talk the talk, but I do the things I talk about, if I'm able to.And these things I am able. so I do them and If no one wants to help out , then , I'll need to do it on my own, as always. There are only a very few here that really care and did offer help, and those few have, the rest are silent. There are also a few who would if they could!
For example, I have a few thousand page views that may have directed , my viewer's ( on one site , I have several) to Blocs site, it may he does not know this, but I do stuff not just, trying to out talk another! I have posts and links to TP site all over also, what do you have? some I've taken down to redo them, when I get chance, now I making themes to give away at Crip's site, That's right, Crip's site!! TP is not his Home, I know is home and those that lived there and still live there, and his site was his home away from home, if you knew what we,ve been through together!
I speak my mine , I have donated to this site in past and to every other sites that does for others, in the SMF, Bloc's as well... I know I have a typing problem and spelling as well, but I do know what I'm doing and I do it, the main reason I did not release many themes I have done is, because of my respect for Jeff and I was and still am running his site, ( and if you only imagine, what kind of respect, I had for him you'd understand!.. I always offered him help, and gave it to him, on the web / his site / TP / themes and in real life.
You see I do not like to just talk , I'm a doer, and I think you do not understand one bit where I'm coming from, or what I am capable of doing or accomplishing!
I've done things for TP and No one except maybe Jim, cares about.
You see my world there people that are good at somethings, but no one is good at everything, and some are just good at talking and talking seems to be taking over the SMF community and nothing is getting done.
I was using, learning on my own, as well as, doing many things on the web way before most of you and certainly before SMF was anything to be considered!
With that said, I'm all for moving forward, don't have time to talk about it much. And I never ever helped anyone for money, I'm the opposite I give! So go only talking your talk and I keep on doing, No matter what you say or think!
You see I do more things for this SMF community than most any of you and don't time to waste!
I even asked for some just to drop by, but no way!
I'm learning new stuff everyday and the community only talks.. No blaming TP, it starts another place :)
Thanks Scrubmiester, JIM, Doc for offering, and Ken!
regards,
Maxx
I wondered when that would come up...you used this argument before, maxx and its still not acceptable. Whatever way you have supported this or other sites with donations in the past, its DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE IN FOREVER YOUR DEBT. Gifts are not a gifts anymore if you going to use it like that. And if you want to talk money, how about the time and money spent on building up TP and this site, having the servers running(which several of us have done in the past) being on the site every day for several years to answer questions(and several still do), finding the time to create new things, finding bugs... see, what YOU describe is not THAT unique, so don't dare to belittle what people here have done.
I suggest - if this is so important for you - that you figure out what you want to do with Jeff's themes, and stick to that. Forcing others to share the same passion will not work, and neither does offering support when its not asked for. Perosnally I don't need support for supports sake with my themes - if anyting I want people to support them if they LIKE to do it, not because they feel obliged to do so. I want sincerity, not false enthusiasm.
And like Carina says..why don't you start making your own themes, offer them free or paid or whatever you like, and stop supporting other peoples themes? Jeff left a legacy...but he too broke away to create his own style over the years. I bet he sometimes wasn't so happy for people's reactions to them(the bad critics naturally) but the PASSION for creation kept him at it. That passion is a bit fragile - too many people that want something and it can go away.
Lucky for all SMF users his passion didn't. His burnt a lot hotter that my own did or does for that matter..but I recognise the will to pick it up again even if you feel the whole world is going against it.
Bloc, I always supported you and respected the Fine Work you did and still do, never ever gave up on you no matter what ups or down you went through, Jim as well, for some time, and all the work and time we spend, on helping out with your site's stuff, what do you do? You washed us all down drain, along with the users, We helped and the paid members you had with your tantrums or what ever!
You should be the last person I'd expect to criticize me, over only the few words you don't like, out of all what I have said and done. You do not respect anyone except yourself! Must be lonely up there!.... oh! but you'll find company, with some of the others that think they are above everyone!
We spent many man hours helping, you. I never said that anyone has to do anything they don't want to do, this first time I bought up money here and looks like talkers can not take time read they just, find one or 2 things in what's said and quote this as the whole meaning of the post.
This another reason for falling behind for everyone!
And what do you know about keeping a site afloat. And it, hurts me to talk about you because of all times, I backed you all over all of the community, and forgave you for the way you treated me and others as well.
OBTW.... you or no one here has the right to talk about Jeff, except for a very few.
Sorry I mentioned money! My post reply was not about money! and believe me, I know where it goes and what its for! I can always forgive the past, but if I forget then, I have learned a thing!
This topic was not about You at all, but you asked for it !
Was not trying force, just stating the facts!
Say what you may and hear what you want to hear, and keep on missing the point of ever conversation, like has been done for too long in the SMF community. and I shall continue to assist !
regards,
Maxx
This is really sad reading maxx
you said we didnt read all what you wrote. I did, and still i see you blame everyone else for everything that happen over the years.
1. This was and never will be a company for profit
2. This was all for fun, and some learning
3. Helping others on our own because it was FUN doing it
4. Paid themes was to pay for servers more or less, i dont think anyone of us can say we could make a living from this community, and i dont think anyone really tried to even take it that far.
5. We all gave time because we WANTED to, nothing more, nothing less.
For me it was fun to learn things with code, and also, my reward was when I, my self, could help others with the same things i needed help with when i started out with SMF/TP
We cant really expect anyone that visited, became a part of TP to have a MUST in this, everything and i mean everything was on free time, on our own terms, and because we wanted to help.
Offcourse it was fun to get credit for the help we cave, some wanted to give money and some just gave their word in a post thanking for the help. But we could not expect anything more, because this was nothing more then a fun place to be a part of :D
In most of your words, you get upset ( thats what i feel from them ) because you feel alone in your work, in your progress and what you want to do with everything.
But thats just what this is, you do it your self, on your free time, and because you like to do so. You simply cant expect credits or help from anything as this is not a place and have never been a place to demand things.
This is for the fun of it, and because we want to do it. You cant get upset everytime you dont feel anyone will stand by your side helping out. We all help, in our own ways, and because we want to, not because we are forced to.
And for the ones coplaining on Bloc and all his work. If they feel they didnt get 100 times worth back from what thei paid, they really need to look at a mirror and start wonder what they see in there... I would say monsters with no life in them what so ever.
I'm gonna let this go, because you still misinterpret what I'm saying and I'm not blaming or trying to force anyone in way, an I have no issue with progressing and never did, and like I said I'll do it on my own as always!
enough said cause you always have the last words and never knowing what the other is saying!
no more time to waste with this
And it's cold in the desert my friend!
Good By!